UPDATE: Check out the video of Carl Levin“But… It was his administration that insisted that the language be included in the bill”.
From the video: Senator Carl Levin (D-Mich.) told Congress recently that under the original wording of the National Defense Authorization Act, American citizens were excluded from the provision that allowed for detention. Once Obama’s officials saw the text though, says Levin, “the administration asked us to remove the language which says that US citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section.”
UPDATE, December 15, 2011 UPDATE 2: Senate passes final bill, goes to President
For the Vote Breakdown of Senate Vote Final: Gov Track Story below the votes.
The National Defense Authorization Act and its controversial provisions regarding detention of terror suspects passed the House of Representatives Wednesday night, 283-136.
The measure split Democrats right down the middle, with 93 voting in favor and 93 against legislation that President Barack Obama tactily endorsed earlier in the day by retreating from a veto threat. There was opposition from Tea Party faithful and other conservative GOP members, 43 of whom opposed the legislation. (A full roll call is posted at the link below): This is the vote taken December 14,2011.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2011- T32
Earler Votes below:
UPDATE: Passed in the Senate – Now goes back to the House as reported.
UPDATE 2: The senate voted 99-1 to let the Courts decide as reported by Mother Jones Wimpy Senate now sticks it back on the House to resolve. What brave men and women.
| Measure Number: | S. 1867 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 ) | ||
| Measure Title: | An original bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2012 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes. | ||
| Vote Counts: | YEAs | 93 |
| NAYs | 7 |
| Vote Summary | By Senator Name | By Vote Position | By Home State |
I posted earlier this week on the vote to allow detaining terrorism suspects without trial will include Americans as well. I caught this video with Rand Paul and Judge Napolitano discussing this bill. Chilling. Sometimes a video is worth more than words. Here we go.
WASHINGTON — The Senate voted Tuesday to keep a controversial provision to let the military detain terrorism suspects on U.S. soil and hold them indefinitely without trial — prompting White House officials to reissue a veto threat.
The Senate voted on whether Congress will give this president—and every future president — the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. Even Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) raised his concerns about the NDAA detention provisions during last night’s Republican debate. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself. UPDATE: The New American has a great analysis… Be sure and look at this ACLU link.
Many pieces of legislation introduced in Congress seek to change our understanding of basic U.S. constitutional values, but most die in committee. This one hasn’t.
Senate Bill 1867, co-authored by Democrat Carl Levin and Republican John McCain, was written in secret and approved by committee without a single hearing. The bill would authorize the indefinite detention of American citizens anywhere in the world, including within U.S. jurisdiction (i.e., in the community where you live). The bill is being included as part of the National Defense Reauthorization Act. Here is a link to the Udall Amendment that was voted down that would have corrected this.Here is a link to the vote tally count of the Udall Amendment
BUNKERVILLE | God, Guns and Guts Comrades! 