Storing more than seven days of food makes you a suspected Terrorist:UPDATE


UPDATE: Check out the video of Carl Levin“But… It was his administration that insisted that the language be included in the bill”.

From the video: Senator Carl Levin (D-Mich.) told Congress recently that under the original wording of the National Defense Authorization Act, American citizens were excluded from the provision that allowed for detention. Once Obama’s officials saw the text though, says Levin, “the administration asked us to remove the language which says that US citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section.”

https://bunkerville.wordpress.com/2012/09/19/indefinte-detentions-of-u-s-citizens-without-due-process-re-instated/

UPDATE, December 15, 2011 UPDATE 2: Senate passes final bill, goes to President

For the Vote Breakdown of Senate Vote Final: Gov Track Story below the votes.

The National Defense Authorization Act and its controversial provisions regarding detention of terror suspects passed the House of Representatives Wednesday night, 283-136.

The measure split Democrats right down the middle, with 93 voting in favor and 93 against legislation that President Barack Obama tactily endorsed earlier in the day by retreating from a veto threat. There was opposition from Tea Party faithful and other conservative GOP members, 43 of whom opposed the legislation. (A full roll call is posted at the link below): This is the vote taken December 14,2011.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2011- T32

Earler Votes below:

UPDATE: Passed in the Senate - Now goes back to the House as reported.

UPDATE 2: The senate voted  99-1 to let the Courts decide as reported by Mother Jones Wimpy Senate now sticks it back on the House to resolve. What brave men and women.

Measure Number: S. 1867 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 )
Measure Title: An original bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2012 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes.
Vote Counts: YEAs 93
  NAYs 7
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State

I posted earlier this week on the vote to allow detaining terrorism suspects without trial will include Americans as well. I caught this video with Rand Paul and Judge Napolitano discussing this bill. Chilling. Sometimes a video is worth more than words. Here we go.

WASHINGTON — The Senate voted Tuesday to keep a controversial provision to let the military detain terrorism suspects on U.S. soil and hold them indefinitely without trial — prompting White House officials to reissue a veto threat.

The Senate voted on whether Congress will give this president—and every future president — the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. Even Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) raised his concerns about the NDAA detention provisions during last night’s Republican debate. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself. UPDATE: The New American has a great analysis…   Be sure and look at this ACLU link.

Many pieces of legislation introduced in Congress seek to change our understanding of basic U.S. constitutional values, but most die in committee. This one hasn’t.  
 
Senate Bill 1867, co-authored by Democrat Carl Levin and Republican John McCain, was written in secret and approved by committee without a single hearing. The bill would authorize the indefinite detention of American citizens anywhere in the world, including within U.S. jurisdiction (i.e., in the community where you live). The bill is being included as part of the National Defense Reauthorization Act.  Here is a link to the Udall Amendment that was voted down that would have corrected this.Here is a link to the vote tally count of the Udall Amendment

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00210

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24 Responses to “Storing more than seven days of food makes you a suspected Terrorist:UPDATE”

  1. Percy Says:

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  3. Angie Mohr Says:

    Has anyone commenting actually read the bill? Section 1032 specifically exempts U.S. citizens and lawful resident aliens from this type of detention. If you’re going to pick up pitchforks and torches, at least read the damn thing first.

    • bunkerville Says:

      Yes I have. Check out the video of Carl Levin“But… It was his administration that insisted that the language be included in the bill”.

      From the video: Senator Carl Levin (D-Mich.) told Congress recently that under the original wording of the National Defense Authorization Act, American citizens were excluded from the provision that allowed for detention. Once Obama’s officials saw the text though, says Levin, “the administration asked us to remove the language which says that US citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section.”

      https://bunkerville.wordpress.com/2012/09/19/indefinte-detentions-of-u-s-citizens-without-due-process-re-instated/

  4. kevin Says:

    So all of those moms on the extremely double couponing shows on T.V. , stock piling food are now admitted terrorist? We are clearly and surely loosing all our freedoms bit by bit. Well people, don’t take the mark of the beast on your hand or forehead. New world order and one world government is soon. Complete control by government, like old communist russia. Read revelations people.

  5. coffeeandsleeplessnights Says:

    Reblogged this on A Lot Of Coffee and Sleepless Nights.

  6. Deesnutz Says:

    Is there somewhere in the bill that states if you have 7 days of food stored your a suspencted terrorist or is this someone who doesn’t want this bill to pass saying this?

    • JimmyBean Says:

      Read it for yourself (and I believe your answer is “no”):

      http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.1540:

      Section 1022 and 1024 are the interesting tidbits. Open Draft 7 of the bill and search for those numbers. This is the one that passed.

      • bunkerville Says:

        Thanks for your response. Stop by again.

  7. Vote Tally Count Defense Authorization Act « BUNKERVILLE | God, Guns and Guts Comrades! Says:

    [...] Vote Tally Count Defense Authorization Act December 15, 2011 — bunkerville UPDATE, December 15, 2011 HR 1540 See earlier post: Storing more than seven days of food makes you a suspected terrorist [...]

  8. Always On Watch Says:

    Stockpiling food can make a person a suspect? Are you kidding me?

    For at least two generations, my family has always kept on hand at least a month’s worth of food and water (and toilet paper). As a result, floods, blizzards, power outages, etc., have never caught us unawares and forced into a situation of hardship.

    I don’t know all the details of this bill. But I do know this! The bill gives the executive branch too much power — and unconstitutional powers!

    • bunkerville Says:

      I am with you. Anyone is foolish not to be prepared. We are going down a slippery slope. I doubt this is going to be a soft landing.

  9. Cheryl Says:

    Silverfiddle makes me ask the question, exactly what would be the reason for this bill? First calling America a battleground and secondly giving military power to detain American citizens? There is something very smelly about this, not to mention the unconstitutional part…at least I believe so.

    • bunkerville Says:

      I am with you C. It is the same thing as killing Americans abroad with drones. Who decides who goes? Who even knows? These are scary times.

  10. marketingo123 Says:

    So i guess this makes anyone with a garden a potential terrorist.
    Way to go America… you’ve f**ked yourself once again!

    Someone is going to get handcuffed and interrogated for planting too many green beans…

    • bunkerville Says:

      Right on..oh, and if you get caught with one, you will surely have to redistribute- its the American way now, dont you know- thanks for stopping by.

  11. Chakam Says:

    I thought it was my pro-Life, pro-gun, pro-Constitution, pro-Jesus, and Veteran status that made me a terrorist. Now I’ll have to add storing food. What about ammo? Does that count, too?

    • bunkerville Says:

      Yes if it is “water tight”. I cant fine the Website, but looks like you will make the cut.

      • Chakam Says:

        Awesome news! I have wanted for so long to impress the Obama Regime! Yay for me and all my domestic terrorist buddies!

  12. republican mother Says:

    Our Congress isn’t so much foolish as much as sold out. Of course, these types usually eat their own and all. I’m rapidly coming to the conclusion that the central banks own our government and thus own our defense department. Our foreign policy is not loyal to Americans at all. It’s becoming clear that the domestic policies are not either. That’s because like Napoleon said, the bankers are loyal to no country. That’s why he sold off LA instead of going into debt to the Rothschild bunch.

    Thanks for highlighting this, we can’t talk about it enough in my opinion. And just so ya know, I typically go grocery shopping for two weeks at a time just because I don’t like to go grocery shopping. But at the rate things are going, moving up to a month at a time might be a better plan. Makes me think that they’re going to go the starvation route like they did in China to keep us in line.

    • bunkerville Says:

      I know I am on the list. I have a years supply of food storage,which no doubt the supplier will be forced to reveal purchasers, ammo as necessary, and “other things”.! The last snow storm when the power was out? I was warm and toasty, with hot meals. Drinking water, and able to “flush’!! I have no doubt our food supply is on a string.

  13. silverfiddle Says:

    There is not reason for putting such a law in place (its unconstitutional anyway). A prison is built one brick at a time.

    • bunkerville Says:

      Yet there has been little discussion of this. I thought I would give it a second try. We think it is unconstitutional, but who knows who we will have on the Supreme Court by the time it gets there. It is a perfect example of the foolish congress we have.

    • Sum1uallno Says:

      What makes it worse is the builders rhyme with builders but always seem to stay out of the spot light.


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