FISA revisited. A worthy hearing that deserved attention. But of course, the media will not report a single sentence. Then again the GOP stacks up its hearings on top of each other, so the chances of any coverage fade even further. Then we will take a spin down memory lane.
On Thursday, DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz testified before the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Appropriations Subcommittee on Crime and Federal Government Surveillance concerning “How a Law Designed to Protect Americans Has Been Weaponized Against Them.”
Horowitz admitted to Rep. Matt Gaetz that the FBI has done 3.4 million warrantless “backdoor searches” of Americans’ communications.
“I want to get into the 3.4 million backdoor searches that the ranking member pointed out in his opening statement. Mr. Inspector General. How should the public think about those?” Gaetz asked.
“Well, I think what we’ve seen in the various public reports, and I’m limited in what I can say about what’s public, which I think is one of the issues, by the way, that’s worth talking about, is transparency here,” said Horowitz.
“It’s obviously very concerning that there’s that volume of searches and particularly concerning the error rate that was reported on in the last two years in the public reporting,” Horowitz continued.
Horowitz revealed an error rate of 30% or over a million erroneous searches.
“I’m a lawyer, not a mathematician, but 3.4 million about 30%, you’re talking about seven figures of error in terms of the searches,” said Gaetz.
Trump’s chances of being turned down for a FISA wire tap 0.02 percent
September 20, 2017 — bunkerville
We learn that AG Lynch signed off on every single one of the FISA requests during her tenure. Better yet, we learn that it is simply a rubber stamp for the nefarious activities of our government. The fact that one has about as much chance of being struck by lightning than being turned down as a candidate for investigation tells us what rare company Trump is in. And her first request to the FISA court was turned down. Apparently she found a Obama Judge. Here we go:
Only two in over 10,000 applications were turned down by the FISA Court.
According to ABC News:
More than a thousand applications for electronic surveillance, all signed by the attorney general, are submitted each year, and the vast majority are approved. From 2009 to 2015, for example, more than 10,700 applications for electronic surveillance were submitted, and only one was denied in its entirety, according to annual reports sent to Congress. Another one was denied in part, and 17 were withdrawn by the government.
Finally, another very disturbing fact about the wire tapping request of President Trump is that the FISA Court turned down President Obama’s Administration’s first request to wire tap President Trump that was evidently signed off on by Attorney General Lynch. With only two applications denied out of 10,700 from 2009 through 2015, the fact that the Obama Administration’s application was denied by the FISA Court the first time is very disturbing. The odds of this happening are 0.02%.
FISA Judge: ‘If Americans don’t know they are being spied on, no harm’
November 24, 2014 — bunkerville
Last week there was a Senate vote that got zero coverage. An effort to rein in the abuse of spying on America. The GOP had no interest in supporting it. Now we get a bit of insight as to the impartiality of the FISA court.
Vote Tally Count Senate NSA Data Spying restrictions voted down November 19, 2014
WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans on Tuesday blocked a sweeping overhaul of the once-secret National Security Agency program that collects records of Americans’ phone calls in bulk.
Democrats and a handful of Republicans who supported the measure failed to secure the 60 votes they needed to take up the legislation. The vote was 58 to 42 for consideration.
Now I give you this absurd argument.
“You can’t have your privacy violated if you don’t know your privacy is violated.”
“Oral arguments presented by Yahoo Counsel (Mark Zwillinger) and the US Solicitor General Gregory Garre” reveal a frightening new govt. argument.
Garre then goes on to explain why the govt. feels it should have warrantless access to US persons’ communications, routed through and stored at US servers.He refers to satellite communications — something in use when FISA was enacted in 1978.
. . .But all of this pales in light of the words of Judge Morris S. Arnold. If they sound familiar, they are. This was the argument made, and roundly ridiculed, by Congressman Mike Rodgers, chair of the House Intelligence Committee.
Vladeck: But who would be complaining?
Rogers: Somebody who’s privacy was violated. You can’t have your privacy violated if you don’t know your privacy is violated.”
Read more at Investment watch blog with legal documents and video. (Link is now dead)
Warrantless spying passes with GOP- vote tally count.
December 29, 2012 — bunkerville
GOP and Feinstein join to fulfill Obama’s demand for renewed warrantless eavesdropping
The best of the swamp.
April 30, 2023 at 3:00 pm
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April 30, 2023 at 3:47 pm
Thanks again.
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April 28, 2023 at 8:52 pm
@ Bunks — what did you get to replace your Vic? As a culture, we have never learned that engines are cheaper than replacement cars. I’ve never learned that lesson. My wife had a 1963 Morris Minor drophead coupe … the floorboards expired before the engine did.
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April 28, 2023 at 9:55 pm
I was commuting back and forth to Florida for the winter, along with two cats and just worried about the age of it. My brother replaced most stuff.. water pump, belts, but I just didn’t have faith. With the cats, it was an issue.
A Hyundai Elantra limited with back up camera, larger wheels.. The maintainence schedule was none existent which I loved. Never one problem. My brothers wife had one with zero problems,, this after my brother got badly burned with his expensive ford pickup with duallies…we were done with ford
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April 28, 2023 at 4:16 pm
A parallel to this is building with AI. Notice the intense push for bio-wearables? And for the centralization of all that data? (Whitney Webb has a great interview on that HERE on FDA Commissioner Robert Califf who she believes is in that role primarily to remove regulatory obstacles for the “healthcare” related wearable, implantable devices and other emerging technologies seen as crucial to the advance of Klaus Schwab’s 4th Industrial Revolution mating man and machine.)
The idea is floated that while people cannot be allowed to peek at your data (and trust me, your medical data is re-sold thousands of times for commercial purposes while they shout “HIIPA” to make you think otherwise) a NON-PERSON such as AI can without your knowledge or permission. Just like like these peeping warrantless searches.
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April 28, 2023 at 5:01 pm
It it any surprise that our healthcare system is on the ropes? The sooner that Granny expires earlier than need be.The old ,medically compromised are not needed in the new society.
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April 28, 2023 at 6:08 pm
Consider this scenario: you were all excited to get your ancestry DNA done. So was someone else – the firm that owns that very valuable data. But maybe you didn’t want to get yours done. No problem. You were forced to taken several nasal swab tests that added a couple billion people’s DNA to the data bank. With AI you develop a specialty chemical cocktail that helps you … or takes you out without the kind of trace that gets the police involved. Maybe they even have a division that specializes in this. So many possibilities.
Lots of people younger than Granny will be considered expendable. Ya think Dr. Harari really wants to prop them up with a basic income, drugs and video games? Trust ’em?
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April 28, 2023 at 6:53 pm
B. I think they have the final solution….
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April 28, 2023 at 6:17 pm
I do believe we are heading full speed toward a dystopian country. Imagine that your emergency activation device triggers in case of a highway accident, and if the occupants are registered geriatrics, no need to rush on this one. I know it sounds crazy, but then so did 1984.
Baysider made a good point about A.I. being able to access medical data … since the law doesn’t pertain to machines, and as I said, being able to ignore medical alerts as much as respond to them. You can’t sue a machine for malpractice, either. The people behind all this seem not to notice that they’ll be on the block in a few years.
The other day in a comment, I mentioned Michael Hastings, who I believe was murdered by the government when agents seized its electronics system and caused it to explode before hitting a tree at a massive rate of speed. Am I delusional? Not according to an M.I.T. professor. It makes you wonder if you should keep the old clunker for a few more years.
I do agree with Elon Musk. This isn’t a question of having technology — it’s a question of ethics in employing it. Looking around, I don’t see that much of our population is very tightly wrapped. Trust? Not a chance.
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April 28, 2023 at 6:56 pm
Biden Rocked by New International Scandal – Joe Does Nothing As Americans Die in Conflict
https://pjnewsletter.com/joe-biden-sudan-citizens-war-state-department/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=pjnewsletter
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April 28, 2023 at 6:57 pm
I regret selling my 2002 Crown Vic…90k miles on it 5 years ago…
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April 28, 2023 at 7:35 pm
@ Bunks …
I listened to someone today estimate 50,000 US citizens in Somalia. I have to ask you … who in their right mind would go to that shithole? I wonder why any of us should feel an obligation to preserve and protect citizens who prefer to live in another country, and in particular, one whose immigrants have destroyed Minnesota.
Just asking.
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April 28, 2023 at 7:55 pm
Bet most of them have dual citizenship…Benefits from the U.S. and family there.. I agree totally with you…
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April 28, 2023 at 8:10 pm
Should I be happy I have my 2001? And Mustang, right on about Michael Hastings.
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April 28, 2023 at 12:29 pm
“You can’t have your privacy violated if you don’t know your privacy is violated.”
This is NOT like “if a tree falls in the forest…” like the Left believes….
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April 28, 2023 at 1:23 pm
Affirmative action is killing this country. What kind of jurist makes an argument like that other than one who should never be a jurist. Here’s a corollary: people don’t know when they’re dead, so then, according to the moron, you can’t kill someone when they don’t know they are killed.
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April 28, 2023 at 5:02 pm
Gaslighting knows no bounds.. and it is getting worse.
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April 28, 2023 at 9:37 am
So we have all become pre-2016 Trump?
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April 28, 2023 at 9:45 am
This is pathetic on my part on two counts. First, I had my post ready at some time around 6:45 a.m. (except for including the graphics) — but left the window open and worked on a few items before working hours (aka gratis work). Then at about 7:30 I notice I have not pushed the button to publish the post.
Similarly, I wrote the paltry line above at 7:15 or so. Again, I let it sit.
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April 28, 2023 at 8:51 am
Here’s the short version of Joe Biden’s Freedom Platform: ban gasoline-powered automobiles and heavy trucks (along with every motorized vehicle in the U.S. Armed Forces (do the math on that one)), stoves, incandescent lights, air conditioners, charter schools, women sports, mining, gas production, and the right of warrantless government searches and seizures — but promises every American the right to wear Covid masks. California joined the Biden Platform by banning the right to sing in church and the right to protest on state property. So America … how’s that land of the free working out for you? (Hat tip: MaddMedic and Dan Greenfield).
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April 28, 2023 at 9:09 am
Not so good Mustang for us…and your list is just a starter..
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April 28, 2023 at 11:53 am
Mustang,
When you mention Biden’s ban on gas production, does that include my favorite roach coach burritos (rumored to not contain any beef, but to be true burritos)?
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April 28, 2023 at 11:59 am
Right, Mark. When you step out for a burrito, there is no beef. It’s katydids blended together. Ha! Jokes on you, bud. Those Democrats!
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April 28, 2023 at 8:13 am
Good work on this, Bunker. And all we hear about this from the MSM is crickets. Disgusting. Why does ANYONE purchase an American newspaper or spend a second on televised media? Fox isn’t carrying it either?
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April 28, 2023 at 8:41 am
I have seen nothing on digital Fox or any MSM social media yet. I am off Fox, though I had not been watching Fox since Tucker which was about the only thing I watched anyway. The Five, sometimes, and get up with Maria on Fox Business is the AM.
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