FISA Judge: ‘If Americans don’t know they are being spied on, no harm’

Last week there was a Senate vote that got zero coverage. An effort to rein in the abuse of spying on America. The GOP had no interest in supporting it. Now we get a bit of insight as to the impartiality of the FISA court.

Vote Tally Count Senate NSA Data Spying restrictions voted down 

WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans on Tuesday blocked a sweeping overhaul of the once-secret National Security Agency program that collects records of Americans’ phone calls in bulk.

Democrats and a handful of Republicans who supported the measure failed to secure the 60 votes they needed to take up the legislation. The vote was 58 to 42 for consideration.

Now I give you this absurd argumentt.

You can’t have your privacy violated if you don’t know your privacy is violated.”

“Oral arguments presented by Yahoo Counsel (Mark Zwillinger) and the US Solicitor General Gregory Garre” reveal a frightening new govt. argument.

Garre then goes on to explain why the govt. feels it should have warrantless access to US persons’ communications, routed through and stored at US servers.He refers to satellite communications — something in use when FISA was enacted in 1978.

. . .But all of this pales in light of the words of Judge Morris S. Arnold. If they sound familiar, they are. This was the argument made, and roundly ridiculed, by Congressman Mike Rodgers, chair of the House Intelligence Committee.

Vladeck: But who would be complaining?

Rogers: Somebody who’s privacy was violated. You can’t have your privacy violated if you don’t know your privacy is violated.”

Read more at Investment watch blog with legal documents and video.


16 Responses to “FISA Judge: ‘If Americans don’t know they are being spied on, no harm’”

  1. My Article Read (11-24-2014) | My Daily Musing Says:

    […] FISA Judge: ‘If Americans don’t know they are being spied on, no harm’ […]

    Liked by 1 person

  2. Jersey McJones Says:

    The stupid paranoia that creates the ridiculous police state is a right-wing emanation. Paranoid doctor, heal thyself.



    • bunkerville Says:

      Both sides should be worried. And they are.


      • Jersey McJones Says:

        If you guys got really serious about it, you could do more to put a stop to it than anyone else. Without the support of the right, the police state is severely weakened.



  3. Steve Dennis Says:

    On this issue the Democrats and the Republicans are no different, they would willingly give away liberty for security, and this is just more proof of that. I still cannot wrap my simple mind around the fact a judge actually said that your privacy cannot be invaded if you don’t know it is invaded! But I guess this plays into the stupidity of the American voter…

    Liked by 1 person

    • bunkerville Says:

      I am working on Rodgers and the fix that was in on Benghazi report A corruptness that is beyond the pale. They are all in it together.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Steve Dennis Says:

        Will be looking forward to it!

        Liked by 1 person

  4. the unit Says:

    If one doesn’t know a liberal/progressive reproductive system is in one’s digestive system, just consider it just a tingle one missed, like a missed call notice..


    • bunkerville Says:

      I think I follow.


      • the unit Says:

        I don’t click “like” either. But we back to what “is is.”


  5. Conservatives on Fire Says:

    Wow! Orwell didn’t know the half of it. I have a question for this “judge”: by your logic, is it okay to spy on the US Government if the government doesn’t know it is being spied on?

    Liked by 2 people

    • mcnorman Says:

      It is done more often than we think. Sick.

      Liked by 1 person

    • bunkerville Says:

      Same with our taxes. If the government doesnt know we owe anything we don’t owe it. Obama’s method of operation.


    • bunkerville Says:

      Wacko birds running our country.


    • Lorra B. Says:

      What a great idea! Why don’t we all just turn the tables. After all…they are all transparent right? Nothing to hide and all. What we don’t know wont hurt us huh? This is sounding more and more like the Gestapo day by day…

      Liked by 1 person

      • bunkerville Says:

        Yes indeed. Now our Emperor will be out on the trail with his immigration thing to wind up the troops.

        Liked by 1 person

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