About These Spying Balloons and Such


by Mustang

There is nothing new about spying balloons.  It’s been going on since the late 1700s, with more than a few interesting twists and turns.  More recently, China sent one of its spying balloons across the United States. This event might be the least secret operation China ever mounted against its American opponent. Still, it has everyone on Twitter in a Tizzy and everyone in the Air Force and Space Force scratching their collective derrieres trying to figure out what to do about it.  Apparently, shooting it down never occurred to anyone.  Space Force — dwell on that for a while.

The first balloon used for military purposes occurred in 1794 (we think), during the French Revolution.  Historians claim that the French Committee on Public Safety (a euphemism for state security) used this balloon to observe “the enemy.” The result of the Battle of Fleurus (26 June 1794) was not inconsequential because the French handed the First Coalition (Britain, Hanover, Dutch Republic, and Habsburg monarchy) suffered the loss of the Austrian Netherlands and the destruction of the Dutch Republic.  Thanks to its balloon, the French could see where to best deploy their troops.

First public demonstration in Annonay, 4 June 1783. Public Domain,

Union forces used aerial balloons during the American Civil War, which made balloon-maker Thaddeus Lowe a wealthy man.  Despite becoming a primary target of the Confederate Army, none of Lowe’s balloons were ever shot out of the air.  Civil War balloons weren’t perfect, but it was a start.  The military eventually learned how to communicate from gondolas at 1,000 or more feet with ground commanders, who had to make use of that information.

We next hear of observation balloons in the so-called Great War.  During this war, to end all wars, observation balloons and motorized dirigibles became primary targets for those new-fangled machines called airplanes.  Suddenly, being in a gondola wasn’t all the Army recruiter promised; no one was drawing “flight pay” back then.

The major shift occurred during World War II.  Military forces began to deploy balloons as defense mechanisms against enemy bombers and fighters.  Barrage balloons were much smaller than the earlier observation balloons and were tethered to the ground using thick cable wire.  They didn’t stop bombing campaigns but forced enemy aircraft to drop their bombs from higher elevations (making them less accurate).

Barrage balloons could reach an altitude above 14,000 feet.  By attaching explosives to these balloons, they became lethal to bomber crews.  World War II also saw the beginning of the so-called “Good Idea Office,” which had a “dirty tricks department.” One of their ideas was the so-called Bat Bomb.  In this scheme, high-altitude bombers would release casings containing Mexican Hibernating Bats with incendiary devices attached that ignited on a timer.  It didn’t do much for the bats, but it did play havoc with Japanese houses that were mainly constructed of wood and paper.

The Japanese returned the favor by launching balloons carrying bombs over the U.S. mainland.  Of the 10,000 or so balloons the Japanese sent into the Pacific jet stream, 300 “Fu-Go” balloons landed in the U.S. between 1944 – 1945.  They carried a 26-pound bomb intended to start forest fires over the Pacific Northwest.  The only damage these balloons caused to American citizens happened in May 1945 when one of the balloons fell on an unsuspecting picnic of five or six.  One wonders, what were the odds?

Before the beginning of the Cold War, the United States initiated a series of balloon programs focused on what was going on inside the Soviet Union and what became known as Communist China.  The Americans called these efforts “projects,” such as MOBY DICK, GENETRIX, and MOGUL.  None were resounding successes, but they were good enough to keep the effort going.

To facilitate this technology, the U.S. military turned to private industries for a hand.  The company selected was General Mills Corporation of Minneapolis, Minnesota — known for manufacturing breakfast cereals — was a significant innovator in aerospace technology, particularly in scientific balloons.  The Aeronautical Research Division of General Mills started in 1946, overseen by German scientist Otto Winzen.  Dr. Winzen determined that latex balloons were inadequate for high-altitude missions, so he introduced polyethylene materials.  At the time, General Mills worked closely with the U.S. Navy’s Office of Naval Research (O.N.R.).

The Navy’s project was called SKYHOOK, first launched in 1947 — the first real success of balloons carrying a wide range of scientific instruments to collect data — and this was precisely what the newly created U.S. Air Force was looking for in conducting reconnaissance overflights.  Working with the Rand Corporation, the Air Force called this effort Project MOGUL.  MOGUL allowed the Americans to “listen” for such things as nuclear tests and missile launches.  Later, the Air Force added cameras that were (in time) so powerful that analysts in Washington could read automobile license plate numbers.

Was this always successful?  No.  To disguise the project’s true nature, the Air Force employed unclassified weather balloons, which nevertheless contained sensitive military equipment designed and launched by a research team from the University of New York.  MOGUL Flight No.4 became famous.  Launched in June 1947, this balloon fell out of the sky over a ranch near Roswell, New Mexico.

To allow Air Force monitoring teams to track these balloons, technicians fitted them with a chain of kite-shaped radar reflectors consisting of lightweight balsa wood frames covered in metal foil.  According to Charles Moore, who then worked as an engineer at General Mills, the foil was fixed to the balloon’s brackets using metallic tape.  General Mills purchased this tape from a New York City toy factory.

The packing tape was stamped with a decorative pattern, which included the kinds of designs that appealed most to children — hearts, flowers, sea shells, and so forth.  During the Air Force’s investigation of the material collected from Roswell, U.F.O. “experts” identified these designs as extraterrestrial hieroglyphics.  Of course, there was no other possible explanation.  This incident ignited a project the Air Force called Project BLUE BOOK lasting 75 years.

Near space reconnaissance has been going on for a very long time, as evidenced by the U.S. Air Force’s earliest experiments with high-altitude balloons and the fact that the Soviet Union shot down “Wrong Way” Powers in 1960.  This success was undoubtedly a result of spies having infiltrated the Air Force and/or C.I.A., knowing how high their missiles would need to travel before reaching the U-2 altitude threshold.  Such is life in the fast lane.

But now the chickens have come home to roost.  Despite the Air Force’s unwillingness to speak about the recent Chinese reconnaissance balloon, there are some interesting questions we should demand answers to.  Could China deliver into our atmosphere their latest virus product from the U.S.-financed Wu Han Labs? Are the Chinese keeping an eye on our agricultural production?  Or could foreign agents introduce bacteria affecting our food supplies, milk obtained from America’s dairy operations?

We started it — and I find it interesting that the Air Force/Space Force seems not to know what to do about it.  Maybe we should ask the Russians or Chinese how they responded to our high-altitude balloons.

Mustang has blogs called  Fix Bayonets and Thoughts From Afar

41 Responses to “About These Spying Balloons and Such”

  1. About These Spying Balloons and Such — BUNKERVILLE | God, Guns and Guts Comrades! | Vermont Folk Troth Says:

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  2. Baysider Says:

    So right about China and the long game. There is another one passing over South America too.

    Appreciate the context of the development of enhanced elevation support of security and military objectives. Very interesting. After all, the ‘high ground’ gives you the edge, whether it’s the heights outside Badr held by poorly formed muslim troops in 624 AD which overcame the advantages of their enemy’s (the Meccans) superior forces, OR your U-2 plane.

    Recently read the book Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies Undermining Freedom Attacking Religion and Promoting Terrorism. It makes a convincing case for Oswald as the source of the U-2’s altitude. The Soviets knew the U2 was overflying their country. They could not shoot it down, as you note, because they did not know how high to aim (90,000 ft). Very few people were cleared to work with this plane, but some radar and radio men were. The Soviets moved to find out about the radar that the Americans used, and its maximum height of tracking. Oswald worked with the radar. (He developed an interest in Russian when stationed in Japan. Even started learning the language there, and accepted mates’ nickname for him, Oswaldovich.) Later, stationed at El Toro MCAS, that sensitive radar knowledge was known at the base. He is presented as having means, motive and opportunity.
    He almost certainly passed sensitive info to someone through a drop location – a bunk mate took a duffle that included fighter aircraft pictures for him to a transit luggage locker, like at a bus depot.

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    • Mustang Says:

      @ Baysider

      Interesting. “The F.B.I. underscored N.S.A. Agent Jack Dunlap as an extremely sensitive and reliable source, claiming that it was Dunlap who gave the Soviets information regarding the U-2 flights over the U.S.S.R. It was Dunlap’s information [that] provided the Soviet Union of shooting down Lt. Powers’ aircraft.” Source: Assassination Archives and Research Center, Bill Simplich, 16 Nov. 2010.

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      • peter3nj Says:

        Life can be one irony after another. In 1960 shot down by the Soviets at 80,000 feet Gary Powers survives. Seventeen years later while I was working in Glendale Powers dies in a traffic helicopter in California at several hundred feet upon running out of fuel. Then Elvis dies two weeks later and Powers fades from the national interest. Would though it were Biden and funny girl would fade from the national consciousness that quickly.

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      • Mustang Says:

        I remember Powers’ death. I was in CA then, too. I didn’t think much about Powers’ death … his piloting skills weren’t that great, to begin with, so why would he get into a helicopter. Here’s what over-confidence is: a helicopter pilot who smokes and thinks he’ll die of lung cancer. Not likely to happen.

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    • Mustang Says:

      Slight correction

      “An extremely sensitive and reliable source” is quoted in an F.B.I. letterhead memo that “[Jack] Dunlap gave the Soviets important information regarding the U-2 flights over the USSR and that Dunlap’s information provided the Soviet Union with the capability of shooting down the Powers U-2 aircraft….”

      My apologies

      -More-
      Jack Edward Dunlap (14 Nov 1927 – 23 Jul 1963) was a U.S. Army sergeant first class stationed at the N.S.A. and spied for the Soviet Union in the early 1960s. Dunlap was awarded the Bronze Star Medal and Purple Heart during the Korean War. When “suspected” of his spying activities, he committed suicide. I’m not sure why he is entitled to burial at Arlington National Cemetery … among the heroes that never betrayed their country.

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      • Baysider Says:

        Interesting. And thank you. I suppose only God knows. And He doesn’t leave the red herrings that men do. I also thought you were stationed at the El Toro MCAS at some point, but in what capacity I don’t know. Wondered if you have any comment on the availability of sensitive radar capabilities knowledge as developed by this author. (Such as “everybody on base knew that even though it was supposed to be a few”)

        Yes, that name Dunlap sounds familiar. We may have 2 pieces of the same puzzle. I found this which mentions him elsewhere in the story.

        “The U-2 pilot, Francis Gary Powers, wrote …: “Oswald’s familiarity with MPS 16 height-finding radar gear and radio codes…are mentioned in the testimony of John E. Donovan, a former first lieutenant assigned to the same El Toro radar unit as OSWALD.”

        Lt. John Emmett Donovan had been Oswald’s commanding officer in 1959, and had discussed more than radar gear and codes: “OSWALD has access to the location of all bases in the west coast area, all radio frequencies for all squadrons, all tactical call signs, and the relative strength of all squadrons, number and type of aircraft in each squadron, who was the commanding officer, the authentification code of entering and exiting the ADIZ, which stands for Air Defense Identification Zone. He knew the range of our radar. He knew the range of our radio. And he knew the range of the surrounding unit’s radio and radar.”

        Donovan was an FBI agent from 1953-1956, and was a recent graduate from Georgetown University’s Foreign Service school when interviewed by the Secret Service during December 1963.”
        This from https://aarclibrary.org/the-jfk-case-the-twelve-who-built-the-oswald-legend-part-4-when-the-u-2-goes-down-oswald-is-ready-to-return/.

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  3. Baysider Says:

    “One wonders, what were the odds?” I’d say 1 in 10,000.

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  4. Mustang Says:

    So, hmmm. We didn’t know where the balloon was until St. Louis?

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  5. The Night Wind Says:

    From Napoleon’s time to right before WW2, one of their main uses of these aerostat-types was directing artillery fire. The pilot signalled back enemy positions with a mirror and later a battery-powered spotlight. In WW1, Aerostat-types were sitting ducks for fighter-planes, but they were still used effectively by Colonial forces throughout the 1930s. Italy used them during the Abyssinian War; I think that Japan did too in China, but not sure. The zeppelin-types used highly pressurized gas to drive engines which gave them long range, and they were capable of reaching altitudes that WW1 fighters couldn’t reach. Our Coast Guard used zeppelins during the 1920s and 30s: they could carry a lot of cargo and actually were ideal for coastal patrols.

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  6. peter3nj Says:

    And now sports fans from the “you can’t make this crap up file”:
    At yesterdays 16 year old travel basketball game the visiting coach when his team was on defense was yelling to his players throughout the game, are you ready for this one … “Get your person” rather than “Get your man.” The end is nearer than we know.

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  7. markone1blog Says:

    Never mind that the balloon was drifting over our Alaskan missile silos and military bases in January.

    Never mind that both America and China have been deploying drones and solar-powered mini-robots for years.

    Never mind that Montana, where it floated over a military base and silo installation for over a day, loaned an opportunity for the balloon to be shot down with few people below.

    Never mind that Joe did not talk to the media about shooting down the balloon on Wednesday (his claimed date of having ordered a shoot-down).

    Never mind that one of Hunter’s main benefactors is China.

    Never mind that the Penn Biden Center is largely funded by China.

    Never mind that Joe has no mind.

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  8. Mustang.Koji Says:

    The Colonel is the intelligence expert, not us… and especially me. However, while we have several US made spy balloons above us 24/7, they are at 70,000 to 80,000 feet above us spying on us with sophisticated systems.

    This Chinese one, I believe, was at much lower altitude – say +/- 22,000 feet? Afterall, you can see it with a nice zoom lens. So the question is: what is it doing?

    One thing is for sure. The next Chinese one will be rainbow colored to ensure our Woke military won’t shoot it down.

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    • Mustang Says:

      And we won’t be able to use the term “The Chinese” as woke military will regard this as offensive to rice eaters. Note, I did not say the rice eaters.

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      • Mustang.Koji Says:

        I eat rice, sir. 🙂

        One other tidbit, perhaps. It appears this was the first “air combat” shootdown by a F-22. If so, is it not ironic that a $250 million dollar fighter’s first “kill” ever was something from the 18th Century? Pappy Boyington is shaking his head now, too, knowing a pilot had to use an expensive missile instead of guns to shoot down a balloon three buses wide… (The last sentence is tongue in cheek.)

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      • Mustang Says:

        And we forgive you, Koji-san.

        I’d say that by the time the USAF (or Massachusetts Air Guard) got around to shooting it down, all its data had already been blipped back to the celestial empire.

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      • Ed Bonderenka Says:

        Koji. the call sign for the mission was “Frank” after a WW1 pilot who shot down 18 balloons.

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  9. Silverfiddle Says:

    Thank you for the history lesson. Low tech is often the best option in many circumstances.

    As for Chinese spying, this is the least of it.

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    • Mustang Says:

      China has a long-term plan; we seem disinterested in much of anything past a second term. In the past 30 years, China has had three presidents. We’ve had five. Maybe we lack continuity of purpose.

      You are right about “the least of it.” Chinese Confucius Institutes are one of their more successful espionage efforts. Eventually, we found them out, so the Chinese began closing the Institutes and re-opening them under a different name. What would be your first reaction to a “Partnership with Beijing Normal University?” Of the 122 Institutes closed by 2022, as many now operate as partnerships in education.

      By the way, this scheme is not unlike the infiltration of Saudi influence through their mosque construction project, providing nearly 3,000 jihadist mosques through 2020, coast to coast. For Ed: who should we blame if not ourselves?

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      • Baysider Says:

        Comprehensive long-term plan, which also includes Zoom as data-rich spyware.

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      • Ed Bonderenka Says:

        “who should we blame if not ourselves?”
        I blame Biden and his handlers.
        You didn’t seem willing to do this after your long informative history which seemed to blame us for starting the practice. And then blame the military for not dealing with it. Civilian governance of the military, remember?

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      • Mustang Says:

        Blame. Well, yes and no. I expect far more from our military leaders than I do from the civilian leadership. I’m not too impressed with the service chiefs and service secretaries — and haven’t been for a very long time. It’s time for our government to get its head out of its butt, and we may as well start with our military leaders, who aren’t leading.

        I want a JCS chairman who will stop talking about woke crap. I want a CNO who spends less time wondering if black lives matter and more time on making sure he has the navy he needs to protect America. I want an Air Force that doesn’t need the president’s permission to do its sworn duty. I want a Commandant of the Marine Corps that will stop talking trash about 28 battalions of Marines taking on the entire Chinese Army. If he has an erection for the Chinese, keeping those cards close to his chest is best for our country. I don’t want three and four star generals kissing the president’s ass for their next promotion or assignment. Rather than playing politics with the Congress or White House, I want our senior-most officers to do their job to the best of their ability and if any civilian piece of crap gets in his way, resign in a most SPECTACULAR fashion.

        I want the military leadership to stand up to their responsibilities. I want them to lead. I want them to hold themselves accountable. If they can’t do that, then they don’t deserve to wear the same uniform as our troops.

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      • Ed Bonderenka Says:

        I can’t argue with one word of that.

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  10. peter3nj Says:

    The “great balloon escapade” gave both Biden and Xi what they needed with China getting unencumbered coast to coast surveillance of whatever the hell they were after and tough guy “Six Gun” Biden adds to his re-elect me in “24 portfolio. Now we wait for KHO to yuck it up with her media peeps

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  11. Ed Bonderenka Says:

    I know how Russia reacted to our “high altitude” U-2 Spy Planes, and how China reacted to our Ep-3E they crashed into.
    “We started it — and I find it interesting that the Air Force/Space Force seems not to know what to do about it.”
    Sure blame us.
    I blame our Chinesium administration more than the Air Force.

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    • Mustang Says:

      Right. Who do you think “crap for brains” turns to when he becomes perplexed in matters of V? I don’t object to being one of the sneaky guys — I object to the incompetence that reveals it to the world.

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    • markone1blog Says:

      I think Biden waited until Sunday to have them shoot it down because he couldn’t get approval from Xi. What really irks me is how Biden claims that he gave the order to shoot it down on Wednesday. If that is so, I want to see the disobeying officer court marshalled.

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      • peter3nj Says:

        Wednesday is code for Sunday. Reminds me of when working for a painting contractor one summer while in high school when in front of the customer the foreman would point with one finger and say give that wall two coats.

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      • Bill Heffner Says:

        Oh, I don’t think it was disobedience. I think they just didn’t know how to do it and were trying to figure out what to use. That they came up with “use a missile” is astounding to me.

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      • Mustang Says:

        Here’s the deal, Bill. As a means of providing money for really important stuff like electrically powered tanks and hormone treatments for transitional gender procedures, SecDef only allows the USAF to shoot one missile each month. The delay in shooting it was that the air-to-air pilots first had to draw straws to see who could pull the trigger. 2023 = not our America.

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      • Bill Heffner Says:

        So the time was spent rounding up enough straws?

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      • Mustang Says:

        Yes, sir, that is my theory. But paper straws, not the plastic variety used by the fringe right.

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