Oh what a tangled web. Meanwhile we watch the death of hospitals. Thousands of hospitals are essentially sitting empty with major layoffs. This as all non emergency tests and procedures are cancelled.
It was reported over the weekend that a major hospital system in NYC was losing 350 million dollars a month. One system on the front line of the pandemic.
What happens when the deaths are classified as Corona death? The reimbursement will be at the medicare reimbursement rate. This rate doesn’t even cover half the cost of treating these cases.
It was reported that the massive trillion dollar bill that passed only included a pittance for hospitals thanks to Nancy Pelosi.
One last step in going to full blown socialized medicine. Doctors are going under financially as well if self employed as the bread and butter cases go untreated.
A factoid that is going unnoticed. Hundreds of hospitals were shuttered thanks to Obamacare. Many hospitals already on the edge were forced under due to unbelievable regulations and reimbursement changes. 19 alone in NYC. Yet now New York screams for the federal government to take care of them.
Lots of luck as the swamp continues its feeding frenzy. If we had decent reporters they would be questioning what is happening to the hospitals and doctors across America. But of course its all about the Progressive Democrat States.
April 6, 2020 at 9:05 pm
April 6, 2020 at 9:11 pm
Please delete that. I am going to stop replying on my dang smartphone made for dummies.
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April 6, 2020 at 9:51 pm
no worries. thanks for stopping by…..
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April 6, 2020 at 8:23 pm
Bunk, I know you’ve worked in the industry, so I only relay the following as a lay person.
Quickly –
1968 – Broken lower left leg and ankle, leg crushed in 2 places – motorcycle accident. I was 16. 45 days in hospital. 120 shots of morphine given by very attractive nurses. 2 othopedic surgeries by German doctor. All that goes with. TOTAL COST was $1,800.00. What the hell went wrong? Is the medical system collapsing under its own weight?
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April 6, 2020 at 8:55 pm
I was in the hospital in 1963…. $45 dollars a day….then came wonderful expensive equipment that cost millions but saved so many surgeries and lives.. Ultrasound, Cat scans, MRI’s, digital mammography,,, angioplasty, open heart surgery, robotic surgery…brain surgeries, Cat scans and MRI machines cost about one million, plus a tech and maintenance and radiologist, same as MRi’s.. a new machine comes out every 5 years or so… salaries, unionization after men got into nursing and related fields…. the beginning of it….then it became a business.. before just blue cross was the only game…..a non profit insurance company….You just paid the Doc a couple of bucks cash for a visit., BC paid major medical, then HMO’s started as a business and got a taste for profit… just for starters kid…..that was the beginning… I could write a book….The good catholic hospitals with nuns were no more.
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April 7, 2020 at 6:01 am
I certainly believe it is a MUTLI-faceted problem. Last time I saw my doc he suggested the mafia took over the health care industry.
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April 7, 2020 at 6:54 am
Agree Kid… many greedy fingers looking for money. No one really cares about the patient per se… I recall the first time I heard about a “capitated life” as opposed to a patient. It sent a shiver and well it should have.
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April 6, 2020 at 7:08 pm
There is literally no institution in this country the Democrats do not want to either destroy or control and it looks like another case of them not letting a good crisis go to waste.
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April 6, 2020 at 7:41 pm
Our worst nightmares are coming to pass……an accident? Or by design….just asking.
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April 6, 2020 at 4:37 pm
Thanks for keeping it real!
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April 6, 2020 at 5:43 pm
What a mess… thanks Terri…
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April 6, 2020 at 11:23 am
Since the way Obamacare killed hospitals (especially rural hospitals in underserved communities — aka minority communities) started years ago and implicates Obama, this will never see the light of day in main stream media.
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April 6, 2020 at 11:25 am
You got it Mark….. waiting to get banned from twitter…
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April 6, 2020 at 11:29 am
You and me both. But we did it with honor, rather than for cussing or lying.
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April 6, 2020 at 11:31 am
Actually, their most current trend is to remove our followers. So we can look forward to talking to an empty electronic room.
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April 6, 2020 at 12:07 pm
Whatever did we do before Twitter? Well, we stood on soapboxes and let the world have our unsolicited opinions. I never did that, personally, but I’m guessing that my “Twitter followers” number around the same today as they did back then. LOL.
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April 6, 2020 at 11:19 am
Wasn’t there something about FISA abuses being uncovered? Or does this all cover them again?
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April 6, 2020 at 11:26 am
That is so yesterday Ed….. 🙂
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April 6, 2020 at 12:08 pm
Yeah, Ed … get with the program, willya?
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April 6, 2020 at 1:36 pm
I forgot to take my blue pill today.
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April 6, 2020 at 10:52 am
The other day, Pence said that every Covid case would be covered financially.
There’s a motivator for tagging everything Covid..
Also, why only Covid? If you’re going to be compassionate, why not every cancer victim?
Or dialysis? Or….Single Payer Healthcare.
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April 6, 2020 at 11:01 am
Yes, he said that… added is the fact it will be at the Medicare rate which is a windfall for all of the insurance companies. I suggest that is a motivator.. it will save the insurance companies millions if not billions. The dirty secret is that the Insurance companies have been propping up Medicare for decades… Medicare only paying for services at 40 to 60 percent of what it actually costs….. Medicare reimbursements have been slashed every year almost, leaving hospitals and Docs in the lurch. Hospitals receive much more from insurance companies for the same services as they get from Medicare and medicaid.
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April 6, 2020 at 11:16 am
I never gave it much thought before, only recently forced to sign up for Medicare regardless of planning on working for years to come.
All those Medicare Part-(insert letter here) plans that are sold are presumably because Medicare is not viable by itself. And an insurance company prop.
Is that correct?
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April 6, 2020 at 11:22 am
I would stay away from an advantage plan….. Plan G offers the best right now as F is not going to take any new patients…. One needs no approvals, can go anywhere at anytime…. Obama did is best to get rid of the straight plan B plans…. no money in them for insurance companies… and frankly I don’t care about a gym membership. A good insurance agent can get the best offer from all of the companies.. the benefits are exactly the same no matter which insurance company you have.
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April 6, 2020 at 10:33 am
I don’t have anything to add to all the wonderful comments already posted. I just know that I’ll be spending today trying to do something useful (like actually getting dressed.)
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April 6, 2020 at 10:46 am
Don’t forget to give the lawn a haircut!! 🙂
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April 6, 2020 at 3:15 pm
I have it on good authority that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday have been replaced by another day. This should certainly simplify our lives …
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April 6, 2020 at 3:22 pm
Now I just have to figure out how to set my watch Mustang….. I am a prisoner in my own home now.. 5 days without seeing a human…. a bang on the door from a masked person, they run off and there is my meal outside my door….. so much for independent living in a retirement community with various levels of care… so you see, it makes no difference now. One more day or not I have not a clue… this is total insanity… Cannot leave the property… wow. 1984 is here and now I read google is following us? Just the warmup…
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April 6, 2020 at 10:32 am
Before the 19th century and prior to advances in medicine and science the causes of death weren’t necessarily differentiated so regardless of the true cause they may have been lumped under cancer for example. Is that what we’re seeing with this virus? Is a death from an infection due to a botched pedicure being chalked up to Corona? We’ll never know will we?
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April 6, 2020 at 10:51 am
We are not suppose to know….. the script has been written, now the actors come out and play their part.
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April 6, 2020 at 10:55 am
You’re right, Peter. We’ll never know because, as good lemmings, we’ll all drown ourselves on the count of three.
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April 6, 2020 at 11:03 am
The movie “The perfect storm” comes to mind.
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April 6, 2020 at 11:18 am
There’s money to be made in them thar Covid Hills!!!
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April 6, 2020 at 4:43 pm
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April 6, 2020 at 9:25 pm
Our phones will start shouting messages to us to back away?
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April 6, 2020 at 9:05 am
The numbers are not adding up, period. Here in Steuben County; 73 confirmed cases, 11 hospitalized, 1 death, 241 isolated/qurantined, 465 tests conducted, 398 tested negative. And our governor Cuomo is on a power grab, our Republican mayor put in place (in the heat of the night) a 2.9% tax increase and closed the library perm. AND the news/Cuomo is lying about the hospitals being full. They are not. Closed down the economy for what? Less than a percentage point? (deaths)— I better stop, my anger is getting out of control.
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April 6, 2020 at 9:26 am
I’m with you, Linda. I don’t understand how this is a crisis of epic proportions when we heard not even a peep from anyone during the 2019-2020 seasonal flu period, where 15 million people were infected and 683,000 died. It must be that I am getting stupid in my old age.
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April 6, 2020 at 8:29 pm
One thought on that score Mustang, and not an argument, but how many people got the flu shot of those that lost their lives.
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April 6, 2020 at 9:04 pm
I highky doubt that, sir.
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April 6, 2020 at 9:13 pm
I highly doubt that, sir.
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April 7, 2020 at 8:20 am
no, they think us older folks are insignificant.
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April 6, 2020 at 9:37 am
The Asian Flu in 1957 killed 116,000 Americans. The Hong Kong Flu in 1968 killed 100,000 Americans. Just for perspective.
I nearly died in 1957 as a child…. pneumonia and came within an inch…….
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April 6, 2020 at 9:14 pm
Wow…
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April 7, 2020 at 8:19 am
well, I was sicker than sick last spring. Lost my smell, taste and the eyesight was poor, had reoccurring pneumonia, everything that the Wuhan virus is…that v irus has been here a lot longer than what is being told. WHATEVER I had last spring, it nearly cost me life.
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April 6, 2020 at 9:39 am
I just happened to catch at one of Trump’s presser as an aside that the reimbursement was going to be at the Medicare rate I knew the hospitals were finished….. no wonder the insurance companies are waiving the co-pays.
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April 6, 2020 at 10:49 am
But Herr Fauci says it not over until the last person dies, or something like that.
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April 6, 2020 at 10:53 am
Not until the country has been totally destroyed without hope of a recovery.
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April 6, 2020 at 8:45 am
China may have well accomplished what 100 years of leftist socialist wanna be communists in the statehouses, congress and Oval Office couldn’t get done. With the schools having been incrementally morphed intro breeding grounds for their ideology private health care along with a cash society have been priorities on their hit list with the virus becoming their number one ally in this phase of the never ending war on democracy. Now if they can only figure out how to get the guns out of our hands and convert christian churches and Jewish temples into mosques….
Hey Bernie…you’re services are no longer needed.
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April 6, 2020 at 9:24 am
Hmmm. The old “Never let a good crisis go to waste” ploy.
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April 6, 2020 at 9:45 am
And they will figure it out Peter… the 2nd amendment, so inconvenient.
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April 6, 2020 at 8:30 pm
I believe we can assume the bastards want us older people dead.
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April 6, 2020 at 8:30 am
In my county, there have been 55 cases of COVID-19; 33 of these are male, 22 female. Of those, 8 have been hospitalized. Two have died. Mortality rate is .0363. We have one hospital in my county; it is closed to all but emergency situations. If I understand this correctly, there are probably less than ten people hospitalized in my county, so this modern, state-of-the-art medical facility is treating only COVID-19 patients and other emergency cases.
In my state, a total of 12,350 cases reported, 11,961 of these are residents of my state. 1,555 have been hospitalized state-wide. 221 have died. Mortality rate is .0178.
In my country, there are 337,933 cases of COVID-19. Of these, 9,653 have died. Mortality rate: .0285.
I have no doubt that this is a lethal disease, but is it a pandemic? A pandemic is a disease that become prevalent over a whole country. The infection rate does appear pandemic, but the death rate does not appear that at all. Where am I wrong?
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April 6, 2020 at 8:37 am
All going as planned…. if one digs around there are pictures of empty ER’s and hospitals… they will ultimately go under….all part of the plan apparently.
I am agnostic on the issue mainly because I know that if everyone had had a N95 mask when going out this could have been stopped in its tracks for the most part.
We were giving away our stuff as late as February to China and the world. The CDC is complicit in the state of affairs. Unfortunately Trump depended on these fools for information. The whole thing is a disgrace.
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April 6, 2020 at 7:13 am
I guess we’ll be looking for the next Dr Kevorkian…
Last week Trump sailed the hospital ship to NYC because Cuomo kept complaining of the need for it
For non CoronaVirus patients
I read that only 3 beds were used (the ship has 1000 beds)
So by accident some smart ass sent several CoronaVirus sick people to the ship which is now contaminated because of that move
And keep in mind that it is the Governor in each State who has the responsibility to make sure all supplies for an emergency are on hand
The media journalists write the hospitals are overflowing with CoronaVirus sick people
But apparently that’s not true…
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April 6, 2020 at 7:32 am
Just the hot spots… cities and States. There are over 6 thousand hospitals, most not effected across much of America.
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April 6, 2020 at 10:47 am
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/coronavirus-in-one-state-5.php•
“*So far, only 48, or 14, of the 355 available ICU beds are in use. According to IHME, the model many officials are now relying on, Minnesota is expected to need 219 ICU beds today. Oops. They were only off by 350 percent.”
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April 6, 2020 at 6:35 am
Not to worry, we will get online hospitals soon.
Smart cities, smart hospitals, smart future.
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April 6, 2020 at 6:39 am
No question. All of my Doc appointments have been by telephone, why not the hospitals?
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April 6, 2020 at 10:46 am
Just face the camera hold your tongue down with that spoon and say “ahhh”.
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April 6, 2020 at 10:49 am
Right Ed…. and my pulmonologist??
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April 6, 2020 at 8:34 pm
Actually, I see no reason I couldn’t go get a blood lab, have it sent to my doc, then he calls me and we discuss the results. No need to sit in an office occupied by sick people. I can take my own blood pressure, feel my ankles and have Mad listen to me breath. Why the office visit?
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