Catholic Church in Scotland defies Pope – No plans on changing the Lord’s Prayer


 

What’s next in the bible that troubles this Pope and its interpretation? Even more interesting is that it appears all hands are not on deck to accept his ‘infallibility.” Francis apparently is not done with the interpretation/translation of the bible.

How about his embracing the Muslim faith into the Seminaries and suggesting adding the Arabic language wouldn’t be a bad thing? A “theology of acceptance?” “Values diversity?” First the Bible:

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Although Pope Francis has ordered a change in the Our Father prayer — a prayer given to the world by Jesus Christ — the Catholic Church in Scotland said it has no plans to accept the Pope’s  version of the prayer, and the Catholic Church in England and Wales also said it has no plans at this time to change the Our Father, although the issue will be studied.

The Lord’s Prayer, also called the Our Father (LatinPater Noster), is a venerated Christian prayer which, according to the New TestamentJesus taught as the way to pray:

Pray then in this way … (Matthew 6:9 NRSV)
When you pray, say … (Luke 11:2 NRSV)

Just call me old fashioned. For the most part, I for one prefer to leave it to the Catholics to deal with their Marxist Pope. But this caught my attention.

“The Catholic Church in Scotland has no plans to change the wording of the Our Father,” a spokesman for the church told Stv.tv in Scotland, as well as The Scottish Sun and Christian Today. “The translation of the prayers of the Mass into different languages, is a matter of the language groups concerned.”

In the prayer, the Pope ordered the phrase “lead us not into temptation” to be changed to “do not let us fall into temptation.”

Pope Francis reportedly was frustrated, stating that God the Father does not lead us into temptation, “He helps you to get up immediately.”

The change in the prayer was made official in late May and is now included in a new edition of the Italian Missal, the prayer book Catholics use at Mass.

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Maybe I am just being picky these days, but if we are changing the interpretation of the bible, how about his adding the embracing of Islam into their Seminaries? Recall my earlier post: 

In Naples, Pope Francis calls for theological dialogue with Islam, Judaism

headline, perhaps, started my fuse today. The operative sentence?

“I would say that theology, particularly in this context, is called to be a theology of acceptance,” Pope Francis said.

I wonder how the Knights Templar would feel about all of this now?

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“Theology students should be educated in dialogue with Judaism and Islam to understand the common roots and differences of our religious identities, and thus contribute more effectively to building a society that values ​​diversity and fosters respect, brotherhood and peaceful coexistence,” Pope Francis said June 21 in front of Naples’ Jesuit-run pontifical Catholic university.

“With Muslims we are called to dialogue to build the future of our societies and our cities; we are called to consider them partners to build a peaceful coexistence, even when there are shocking episodes by fanatical groups, who are enemies of dialogue, like the tragedy of last Easter in Sri Lanka,” he said.

“The multicultural and multi-religious reality of the new Mediterranean is formed … in the dialogue that comes from listening to the people and texts of the great monotheistic religions, and especially in listening to young people,” Francis said.

“The multicultural and multi-religious reality of the new Mediterranean is formed … in the dialogue that comes from listening to the people and texts of the great monotheistic religions, and especially in listening to young people,” Francis said.

“In theological faculties and ecclesiastical universities, courses in Arabic and Hebrew language and culture are to be encouraged, as well as mutual understanding between Christian, Jewish and Muslim students,” he said.”

“I would say that theology, particularly in this context, is called to be a theology of acceptance,” Pope Francis said.

The pope’s message focused on theological study within pontifical universities as outlined in the apostolic constitution Veritatis Gaudium published in January 2018. Veritatis Gaudium stipulated new norms of governance and education for all institutions that issue ecclesiastical degrees.

Thats my screed for today. Other than that, all is well in the swamp and elsewhere.

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20 Responses to “Catholic Church in Scotland defies Pope – No plans on changing the Lord’s Prayer”

  1. Sunday Respite – Paris, Texas | BUNKERVILLE | God, Guns and Guts Comrades! Says:

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  2. Adrienne Says:

    Just call me old fashioned. For the most part, I for one prefer to leave it to the Catholics to deal with their Marxist Pope.

    Real Catholics do their best to ignore him.

    Do not confuse mortal men with the Church.

    A question I always ask Catholic bashers to ponder is why are the powers that be so hell bent on destroying the Catholic Church.

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    • bunkerville Says:

      I hope this didn’t come off as Catholic bashing….. I have to ask why the previous Pope retired and the Church had to know it was embracing a political figure.
      I am deeply disturbed by where many of our Protestant churches have gone as well. I have left more churches than I care to mention.
      You are correct….but I know several Catholics who are not attending Church for the above mentioned issues. To disregard what this Pope is promoting does not serve the cause Imo.

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  3. D3F1ANT Says:

    LOL! The WHOLE shebang is a silly, archaic scam. The Red Pope SHOULD be the final bit of proof. But the sheeple will abide…

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  4. Trev Adams Says:

    All catholics should read Dave Hunt’s excellent book, “A Woman rides the Beast”.It will open up for them the history of the catholic church and it ain’t pretty.

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  5. robert weston Says:

    Makes me wonder what other sayings of Jesus does the Pope wants to change?

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  6. Steve Dennis Says:

    I remember hearing the pope wanted to change the Lord’s Prayer but I didn’t know he made it “official.” I am glad to see some of the Catholic Churches are pushing back against this, it is going to be interesting to see if he pushes back against them.

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  7. Mustang Says:

    I’m sitting here thinking what it is that occupies most of the Pope’s day. Praying, certainly. Also, apparently, sitting around thinking up stupid stuff to issue edicts about. Of course, the folks living in the British Isles have become accustomed to the king/emperor thing —doing what they’re told, and the Pope is yet another of these … so those rebellious Scots does surprise me. Still sitting here thinking … wondering if there are not more important things in the world than a single line. The Pater Noster is my favorite prayer because Jesus crafted it for us. I do think the Pope is a communist, but then most dogmatists are, even in Islam. Controlling the masses is what they are all about, and freedom loving people tend to reject that nonsense. Religion isn’t bad (my favorite part is free will), but there are people who use it to their advantage —which from all my reading, was not God’s original intent. Even the “Thou shalt not’s” (for the most part) were designed to provide a harmonious community of God-fearing people. I just think that the major religions have taken it to the extreme. This post is but one example of this.

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    • bunkerville Says:

      HIs Marxist one world is one thing…now this Muslim thing is another whole issue…..I can wonder what his intent is…it is almost as if he wants the church to be divided within itself.
      Not getting after the Priest issue, and so on.
      I rarely post on religion, especially Catholicism..But I am getting weary of what he is doing around the world that rarely is reported. I assume this is not the last we will hear of his interpretation of scripture.

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  8. Ed Bonderenka Says:

    Well, it’s always been my interpretation that the phrase “lead us not into” would be better “lead us out of” which makes a whole lot more sense, but concurs logically with the original.
    Just as in the OT we see frequently “Go now!” which also can be translated “Come now!” and makes more sense to us.
    But when I find myself in agreement with Francis, I have to re-challenge my position.

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    • bunkerville Says:

      My issue is/was is this the beginning of his interpretation of the bible? But I am not Catholic, so one man and he is a man, starts mucking around with the bible…It probably was the last straw, I had been thinking about the later part of the post… his acceptance apparently that all the religions are “going to get along.”… funny, I can’t take Communion in his church.

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  9. Linda Says:

    Just another globalist hiding in sheep clothing. Jmo of course. Good for Scotland–something tells me though-they will be forced to reverse their decision.

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