Does anyone give a darn about this Iran business?


 

 

I had close relatives working in Iran during the the period of governance by the Shah of Iran, who was a Progressive, with Western values. He worked hard on liberalizing the culture, especially women. The cities were  cosmopolitan. I recall many conversations during this time with them and the requisite “Sunday night slide show” of Iran when they returned to the the U.S. at times to visit. When I ran across this clip I felt dreadfully sad. It brought to mind the pictures I had seen in the 1960’s- 1970’s. The swamp remains with its lies and deceptions.

Last week I posted Iran’s Rouhani Makes First Visit Ever To Iraq To “Bypass Unjust US Sanctions”

The post wasn’t a barn burner.. not even close. Just let the headline sink in. All I ask.

 

 

Looking at these women now, I can only wonder about them. Forty years later.

 

Information shows how Khomeini fooled Carter into helping him overthrow US ally, while deceiving US public.

The BBC reports that Khomeini had made several overtures to US presidents, asking them to encourage the Iranian military to stand down and allow the uprising to succeed. In exchange, he promised to continue the warm relationship between the two countries.

The first message was sent to President John F Kennedy in 1963, but arrived only two weeks before he was assassinated. The next known attempt came in January 1979, as the Ayatollah prepared to return home from exile.

American officials in Tehran were already aware of the rumbles of discomfort and were looking for a way out of the situation, despite publicly supporting the Shah and Prime Minister Shapour Bakhtiar. “The best that can result, in my view, is a military coup against Bakhtiar and then a deal struck between the military and Khomeini that finally pushes the Shah out of power,” wrote Deputy National Security Adviser David Aaron.

A couple days later, President Carter encouraged the Shah to “leave promptly.” He never returned to Iran. (Ed. In fact, the Shah was very sick at the time.)

The Ayatollah’s message arrived just as US officials were thinking of ways to quietly back the Islamists. The two sides began secret talks, which culminated in American assurances that it was not opposed to overthrowing the monarchy. For his part, Khomeini repeatedly promised that Iran would view the US as a friend and would continue selling oil to all countries except for Israel and South Africa. He even convinced the US that there was no need to remove its weapons, because the US military would still be welcome to operate in the country.

Analysts have pointed out how well Khomeini succeeded in deluding the Americans. “Unlike Carter, Khomeini pursued a consistent strategy and played his hand masterfully. Guided by a clear vision of establishing an Islamic republic, the ayatollah engaged America with empty promises, understood its intentions, and marched toward victory,” the BBC notes.

While this information has only now been revealed to the public, it would presumably have been available to the Obama administration during last year’s nuclear negotiations with Iran. Though we are in a different century and Ayatollah Khomeini has been replaced by Ayatollah Khamenei, Secretary of State John Kerry and President Barack Obama regularly assured the public that Iran was negotiating in good faith and could be trusted, just as the Carter administration believed.

After the deal was signed, Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes admitted that the US government lied to its constituents and allies, and had been secretly preparing for a nuclear agreement with hardliners in Tehran.

Shortly after Rouhani was elected in 2013, he and Obama exchanged letters, and Obama later publicly reached out to Iran in a speech to the UN General Assembly.

In November of that year, it was revealed that a preliminary deal between Iran and the West was made possible due to secret talks that the United States and Iran held for more than half a year and were authorized by Obama himself.

Those discussions were kept hidden even from America’s closest friends, including its five negotiating partners and from Israel.

The reason for the skewed presentation of the talks’ timeline, said Rhodes on Sunday, was to enable the administration to sell the deal to a wider audience.

After the deal was struck last July, Rhodes, the deputy national security adviser for strategic communications, explained to the Times how Washington’s foreign policy objectives focused on Iran.

Former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, who was also interviewed in the same article, noted that his job at the time of negotiations was to keep Israel from striking Iran’s nuclear facilities.

Speaking of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and former Defense Minister Ehud Barak, Panetta noted that “They were both interested in the answer to the question, ‘Is the president serious?’ ”

“And you know my view, talking with the president, was: If brought to the point where we had evidence that they’re developing an atomic weapon, I think the president is serious that he is not going to allow that to happen.”

Asked whether he would make that assessment now, Panetta answered, “Probably not.”

Regarding the media’s support for the deal, Rhodes admitted in the interview that “We created an echo chamber.”

Rosen report on Ben Rhodes lying to Americans on Iran deal

 

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19 Responses to “Does anyone give a darn about this Iran business?”

  1. Kid Says:

    I wish Iran would pop one or more nukes off somewhere and let’s get this thing started by taking Iran off the map. I would grieve for the dogs and cats and other animals and some of the decent normal people there. But war is hell.

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  2. petermc3 Says:

    Not to let the grass grow under his feet the Iranian debacle was Carter’s follow up to pissing away the Panama Canal. Mr Peanut, with lust in his heart, was no innocent bystander when it came to subterfuge. Given four more years he could have made Obama look like an all-American school boy. Just one man’s opinion….

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  3. markone1blog Says:

    Just think of the terrorism that may not have formed had radical Islam not been allowed to take over Iran. Think of the different business alliances that would exist. It would be a different world if Jimmy Carter had never been president.

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  4. David Montaigne Says:

    Iran in the 1970s was ready for Westernization, and if a better contender than Khomeini had been available to replace the Shah, Iran might have developed differently. Iran today is not ready for Westernization. If it ever happens it will take a sea change like being on the losing side of WWIII.

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    • bunkerville Says:

      Agree… no longer..I am really troubled that no one bothers to follow this nastiness of the Middle East…..instead one major quagmire. Iran and Iraq were arch enemies for a thousand years We managed to bring them together.

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  5. petermc3 Says:

    As most my age should, I remember well this debacle. As a matter of fact here’s a little nothing burger. At the time The transportation company. I worked for mover DOD shipments of military personnel between US and overseas military bases. There was historically an equilibrium between shipments going to and from. As part of a team assigned to moving these shipments I noticed as early as January , 1978 that equilibrium was broken as hundreds of shipments on a monthly basis were coming stateside from Tehran AFB while a trickle of maybe 1-5 members were shipping out to Tehran AFB.. Coincidentally I was at the time attending a community college here in NJ for additional credits. Coincidentally, again, one of the teachers happened to be a retired USAF officer. Upon mentioning this peculiarity she told me to forget about it. I for one was not shocked in November of that year….

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    • bunkerville Says:

      We can’t expect Western Democracy in far places such as ours. I just am sick of no info or coverage on the Middle East. This post was my personal screed against the swamp and forgetting all the brave men and women we have lost.

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  6. bob sykes Says:

    Towards the end of the Shah’s reign, I was teaching engineering at a large public university, and several Iranian students were enrolled. At that time the Savak, the Shah’s secret police, was active in the US, and it repeatedly beat up Iranian students who were anti-Shah activists. One of my own students spent a couple of days in the university hospital after a beating. So, the Shah was not progressive or liberal in any political sense, but he was a modernizer, like Nasser in Egypt, Assad Sr. in Syria, Hussein (another Baathist) in Iraq, and the communists in Afghanistan. None of these were liberals, but they were all socialists of one sort or another and wanted to adopt much of Western culture.

    The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) was an agreement not only between Iran and the US, but between both of them and the UK, France, Russia, China and Germany. When Trump broke the agreement with Iran, he also betrayed our principal allies and Russian and China. The attempt by Bolton, Mattis, and Pompeo to force Iran to submit to our demands by threats of brute force is unlikely to succeed. Same with Kim. It does however significantly damage our relations with our allies, and it makes all other countries reluctant to enter into any negotiations with us.

    To be clear, I did not include Trump in the list of actors, because I believe the coup has succeeded, and he is only a figurehead President.

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    • bunkerville Says:

      Thanks for your import. I was very young at the time. but I do recall that girls were allowed to attend school, FGM was banned, land reforms were going on as I recall. The economy was doing well thus so many Americans over there helping out as engineers as my relatives were.I doubt we can expect a democracy with all the freedoms in foreign lands with the conservative religious fervor and expect it not be dealt with. A benign dictator to me is a step above the ruling of 7th century Mullahs.

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    • Mustang Says:

      For what it’s worth, similar incidents to those described by Bob happened here in the states, when our citizens —guilty of nothing more than being black— were beaten and sometimes killed by those whose grace depended on no more than being white.

      I personally favor no close relationship with any middle-eastern regime, but even in the normal course of our diplomatic efforts in Islamic countries, we ought to understand that these people aren’t like us, have never been like us, and never will be “like us.” If we must deal with them, then let it be on the basis of some mutual benefit for doing so.

      I am tired of seeing American diplomats, from the high and mighty to the lowest on the totem pole proclaim what “great people” (fill in the blank) are and how modern society owes their culture a debt of gratitude for all of their contributions. Poppycock.

      Every human being on the planet is capable of enlightenment; every one of them is capable of having a dark heart. I wouldn’t give a plug nickel for the Shah of Iran, the Emperor of Japan, or the Revolutionary Council of Pakistan and I quite frankly do not understand why we Americans continually refer to others, whose primary concern is their own national (self) interest, as our “friends.” America has no friends—and with that said, let us stop pretending that we are not just as capable as anyone else of the worst behavior, as a nation and as individuals.

      By the way, if Bob is upset with the Shah’s thugs running around beat up Iranian students, he won’t be happy to learn that the Chinese government is doing that exact same thing at US colleges and universities this very day. One wonders why this situation is allowed to exist in the “land of the free.”

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      • bunkerville Says:

        After my relatives left, they were plenty worried after they came home after the Shah’s fall. The problem starts with the idea that the misfits have to be left back into the country and continue to stir up trouble. Same with us….

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  7. Ed Bonderenka Says:

    In the 70’s I was given an assignment to Iran.
    I went home for a bit and when I came back, the job had been given to a couple friends of mine. It was assumed I wasn’t coming back, facing Iran.
    I was assigned to an job in Italy instead.
    My friends took jobs in Iran. Right before the fall.
    We did not keep in touch.
    I often wonder what happened to them.
    Trusting Iran after what they did to us and our embassy then, with no apology, is stupid and insane.

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    • bunkerville Says:

      I wonder as well as to what happened to the families my relatives talked about. Yet, there is nothing in the news about Iran or much about the Middle East for that matter. Thousands maimed and killed but oh well…

      Liked by 2 people


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