Obama finalizes Social Security gun ban ‘rule’

December 26, 2016 — bunkerville

Obama is dropping a whole lot of goodies down our chimney before he exits. As if selling Israel down the tubes at the UN with the latest abstention vote wasn’t enough to rile us, let’s tool up the gun rights folks. Of course SS folks are in the news everyday, brandishing their weapons. I was chewing on raw hide all weekend wanting to post this but did not in respect for Christmas. Here tis:

On Monday the Obama administration finalized a Social Security gun ban that could prevent “tens of thousands” of law-abiding elderly citizens from purchasing guns for self-defense.

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The Los Angeles Times reported that the ban would be sweeping; that it would cover those who are unable to manage their own affairs for a multitude of reasons–from “subnormal intelligence or mental illness” to “incompetency,” an unspecified “condition,” or “disease.”

Current law prohibits individuals from buying a gun if, because of a mental health issue, they are either a danger to themselves or others or are unable to manage their own affairs. The Social Security Administration (SSA) has indicated that it will begin the rulemaking process to ensure that appropriate information in its records is reported to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). The reporting that SSA, in consultation with the Department of Justice, is expected to require will cover appropriate records of the approximately 75,000 people each year who have a documented mental health issue, receive disability benefits, and are unable to manage those benefits because of their mental impairment, or who have been found by a state or federal court to be legally incompetent. The rulemaking will also provide a mechanism for people to seek relief from the federal prohibition on possessing a firearm for reasons related to mental health.

More at Breitbart

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39 Responses to “Obama finalizes Social Security gun ban ‘rule’”

  1. Samuel Toth Says:
    December 27, 2016 at 11:38 pm

    It pisses me off when ignorant people make statements like “if you got a mental illness you should never own a gun” Or “if you’re too mentally ill to work than obviously you’re too dangerous to own a gun”. The type of people who make these statements are the ones who have essentially lost their minds, not the other way around. Plenty of people have some form of mental or intellectual DISABILITY that limits number of hours worked either by limiting function or by the person trying to limit stress levels.

    Where the automatic link between violence and those conditions came in, your guess is as good as mine because in reality there is no link. Having anything in NICS or any legal record that involves someone’s rights being removed based on the arbitrary is no different that when Michigan first implemented handgun registration in the 1930’s(I think) for the sole purpose of knowing what African-American citizens owned handguns. Like this gun ban it was nothing but wrong stereotyping.

    We have mechanisms in place to adjudicate a person a mental defective person that works, it’s called the court system. If the SSA indeed gets it’s way, it’s going to ban people that have issues as non dangerous as OCD and generalized anxiety disorder from owning firearms, while at the same time these people drive cars, have jobs, raise their children and do everything any other American does to support and protect their family, with the exception that full time work is limited. This is a FAR CRY from what normal people have in their mind about what an adjudicated person looks like, adjudicated people are not able to have any life at all, the person on disability with husband or wife handling their finances and is not comprable to the guy all alone in the psyche ward, ordered by a judge to stay there.

    KEEP ADJUDICATIONS IN THE LOCAL COURT SYSTEMS! There is no other legally fair system out there for weeding out who might be a risk to society. Think of this-we had guns over to anyone 18 that has no criminal or mental disqualifying record, but they are too young to have ever gotten to that point, so who knows if they are dangerous….But to older people especially who have owned firearms their whole lives and proved themselves to society, to have their rights stripped because Obamm-ass say’s they are dangerous is a slap in the face, it is arbitrary and down right INSULTING!!!

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  2. PARTNERING WITH EAGLES Says:
    December 27, 2016 at 1:56 pm

    You might want to visit Pacific Paratrooper, after viewing these items which I reposted in their entirety – Rogue Government indeed…
    https://partneringwitheagles.wordpress.com/2016/12/27/13593/

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  4. Steve Dennis Says:
    December 27, 2016 at 5:37 am

    Her certainly snuck this one in over the weekend and we have another long weekend coming up! This is going to be a dangerous last month in office.

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  5. petermac3 Says:
    December 26, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    As retirees who have paid into the system for decades we have to fight for every penny for our benefits. And of course no funds available for our vets yet when that fat ass sweaty KFC dining beast from Chitown Mrs. Cairbama and her pot smoking skinny assed ghetto daughters need a vacation costing in the tens, no, hundreds of millions, no problemo.

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  6. petermac3 Says:
    December 26, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    My bouts with poor decision making may surely brand me as a nut depending on who is the arbiter. No different than death panels. Catch my drift?
    P.S. The alphabet TV channels are happily and repeatedly wishing us all Happy Kwanza. Now dat be inclusion yo, ya, y’all!

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  7. Samuel Toth Says:
    December 26, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    Quick point to bring up. There has never been proof showing a connection between mental illness and an increased level of violence ( but the media pumps up the coverage on the 1% of shootings that are mental health related to make it appear this way). Sure some people are a danger to themselves or others and are deemed by a court to be a mental defective, but this can happen with or without an underlying mental illness. If God gave you rights and you know that you are a good person who would never harm anyone, than carry on. Obama’s laws are invalid. Every American deserves dignity and respect and the ability to have the good quality of life that our country provides. Putting arbitrary and invalid stereotypes out there will reduce gun violence by 0% while simultaneously increasing stigmatization, giving a lower sense self worth and depression to innocent disabled people ten fold. If in 2016 a person still seems to think that a mental health problem automatically increases the risk of violence, I highly recommend that you reconsider your association with that person because they have an intelligence level a little lower than a nit.

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    • bunkerville Says:
      December 26, 2016 at 7:05 pm

      Thanks so much for your well thought out response. It is especially sad to go after old folks. But then again, this was just the beginning of his plan as I have been posting about for years. Our guns any way he can get them. Stop by again.

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      • Samuel Toth Says:
        December 27, 2016 at 11:46 pm

        Obama is a sicko. Like I said in another post, it’s disgusting to think that our laws allow someone at age 18 to easily purchase a firearm, even though at 18 this person is not even old enough to have ever gotten in trouble with the law nor would they know at such a young age if they are mentally stable, yet at the same time for the SSA to target many people, especially middle aged or seniors who have owned guns for years and proven themselves to not be a risk to society-to have their rights stripped because of the arbitrary is disgusting and down right insulting.

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  8. Always On Watch Says:
    December 26, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    Some good news:

    Trump team seeks names of officials working to “counter violent extremism”.

    Maybe Trump will tackle BHO’s Second Amendment travesty.

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  9. Always On Watch Says:
    December 26, 2016 at 4:20 pm

    He just keeps wreaking more and more damage before he finally exits the Oval Office. Grrrrrr.

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  10. wiregrassga Says:
    December 26, 2016 at 12:31 pm

    Goodbye and good riddance to Obama. Not just a failure as a president but also as a man and human being.

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  11. geeez2014 Says:
    December 26, 2016 at 10:55 am

    I KNOW I’m going to get SHOT for this from one of you guys but it appears the only Soc Sec recipients in question are those with “marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease.”
    I’m not sure I’d want them shooting!
    BUT …if you are suggesting this is a SLIPPERY SLOPE for more and more ridiculous gun laws, I TOTALLY GET YOUR POINT.

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  12. Mustang Says:
    December 26, 2016 at 10:52 am

    I think disarming those who are least able to defend themselves by other means is a good idea – but only if you are a communist piece of shit who is entitled to armed guards at everyone else’s expense for the rest of your life. My prayer is that when the shit-for-brains finally gets what’s coming to him that his security detail is whooping it up in a Southside whorehouse.

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  13. Sparky Says:
    December 26, 2016 at 9:51 am

    Like Brittius said, it’ll be over turned and/or won’t be enforced. And there’s no way on this planet that there are enough Fed’s that want to be killed over trying to take away my guns. Oh, and most of the LEO’s won’t enforce it. ‘Nuff said … 😉
    O’DingleBarry can’t get out of my country soon enough.

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  14. the unit Says:
    December 26, 2016 at 9:08 am

    According to journalist Henrik Lennart “the first 200 year old human has already been born.” Gee I’m thinking…what if it’s me? Imagine living 135 years on Medicare and 132 years on Social Security! And with no shootin’ iron!
    Me with my osteoarthritic hands just can’t seem to get a handle on it.
    Oh well at least I already done been on muh “entitlements” about 10 years so that cuts it down. So for me there’s that. 🙂

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  15. Just Simply Linda Says:
    December 26, 2016 at 8:48 am

    We were just discussing this…and my husband goes, “Thank God everything is in your name.” I’ll tell you what, let them try…let them try. Talk about overreaching….sigh.

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  16. Brittius Says:
    December 26, 2016 at 7:12 am

    Reblogged this on Brittius and commented:
    In a matter of weeks, Trump will reverse the order. The federal government cannot gear up, or begin to enforce that. Also, litigations. If people contribute from payroll, only to be refused payment as they lived up to their end, lump sum and treble damages for amount suing under US Title-VII, of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and, no judge can curtail the amount sought, so write in, $1.5 Billion, as millions in today’s economy is worthless, and the award tax free, becomes $4.5 Billion.

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