Vet sought treatment for ‘Insomnia’, NY police takes his guns


So you took a Vicodin 15 years ago when you had some surgery? Great news, you could be considered a “Mental defective” by the office of Mental Hygiene in Suffolk County New York. A feel good story to get the New Year off to a great start.

U.S. Navy veteran and retired police officer Donald Montgomery is suing New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and other officials after his firearms were reportedly confiscated by police after he sought treatment for insomnia.

Consider Nassau County, a populous suburban county eastof New York City. The Nassau  Department (ncpd) oversees the issuance of handgun licenses which must be renewed every five years. Last year, the ncpd added a new question to the application:

“Have you used or still use [sic]
narcotics, tranquilizers or antidepressant
medication? If yes, record
doctor’s name, address and phone
number, (attach).” A list of all relevant
medications is required.
In reality, these categories of
drugs—narcotics, tranquilizers and
anti-depressants—are so broad that
almost every adult could be identified
as a potentially dangerous drug user
through this question.

Read more here with what is covered and how it works.

Here we go with a prime example of how the Office of Mental Hygiene completes Gun Control.

It all started after Montgomery visited his primary care physician on May 6 and complained about trouble sleeping, the Daily Caller reported. He claimed to have been suffering from insomnia since moving from a different state. Montgomery then returned to the hospital again days later for the same problems, except this time he was diagnosed with “Depression; Insomnia” by hospital staff.

On May 23, Montgomery returned to the hospital yet again with the same symptoms. He reportedly stayed at the hospital for 48 hours voluntarily for treatment.

Under New York’s SAFE Act, mental health professionals are required to report patients who are determined to be threats to themselves or others. Regardless, the lawsuit claims the veteran was cleared.

“Patient has no thoughts of hurting himself. Patient has no thoughts of hurting others. Patient is not having suicidal thoughts. Patient is not having homicidal thoughts,” the hospital notes from the visit allegedly said.

Montgomery was said to be “mildly depressed” by hospital officials, but they found “no evidence of any psychotic processes, mania, or OCD symptoms.” The notes also asserted, “Insight, judgment, and impulse control are good.”

Still, Montgomery’s records were forwarded to Mental Hygiene Legal Service for further review.

The Daily Caller outlines what happened next:

Four days after leaving the hospital, New York State police sent a letter to the Suffolk County clerk’s office stating “has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been involuntarily committed to a mental institution” and that he was prohibited from possessing any firearms.

The next day, Montgomery received a call from an officer at the Suffolk County Sheriff’s Department informing him that his guns would have to be confiscated.

Montgomery says that on May 30, the Suffolk County Sheriff’s Department showed up to his house and confiscated his pistol license and four handguns — Colt .38 revolver, Derringer .38, Glock 26 9mm, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard 380.

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23 Responses to “Vet sought treatment for ‘Insomnia’, NY police takes his guns”

  1. My Article Read (1-3-2015) | My Daily Musing Says:

    […] Vet sought treatment for ‘Insomnia’, NY police takes his guns […]

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  2. Paul H. Lemmen Says:

    Reblogged this on A Conservative Christian Man.

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    • bunkerville Says:

      Thanks again Paul

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  3. LadyRavenSDC Says:

    Obama Administration Secretly Declaring Thousands of US Veterans Incompetent — Then Taking Away Their Second Amendment Rights – http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2014/01/obama_administr_73.php
    Gov also says that because one’s “disabilities” he or she may need help (by who else) in handling their VA benefits.

    This from 2011 and gov has moved well along since then – The rise of the Psychiatric State under Obamacare https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/11/11/the-rise-of-the-psychiatric-state-under-obamacare/

    OH! And data bases? They got that covered for sure – U.S. Mines Personal Health Data to Find the Vulnerable in Emergencies – http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/16/us/us-mines-personal-health-data-to-aid-emergency-response.html?src=twr&_r=1

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    • bunkerville Says:

      Thanks for all the links and adding it up. A sad story indeed. Wow.

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    • Lorra B. Says:

      What an unbelievable travesty! Our government is doing everything it can to tie our hands behind our backs. Did you know they were confiscating guns in New York? Unbelievable! Here is one story… http://lorrab.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/video-new-york-guns-confiscated-under-safe-act-gun-control-law-violates-amendment-rights/

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      • Lorra B. Says:

        I just realized this too was in NY…

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  4. LadyRavenSDC Says:

    Reblogged this on LadyRaven's Whisky In A Jar – OH!.

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    • bunkerville Says:

      Thanks again!

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  5. Jersey McJones Says:

    Well, it’s good that you guys are paying attention to our mental health system, even if it’s just your mentally unbalanced obsession with guns that set you off. We do really need to take a hard look at this issue. People often find themselves and their rights horribly abused by the mental health sector (gun rights are the least of the problems most people face when caught up in the mental health system, but certainly it could be another problem nonetheless).

    JMJ

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  6. Conservatives on Fire Says:

    It is all going according to plan, isn’t it? Big Brother will decide who is fit to own a gun and somehow all private citizens will be deemed unfit. Of course, Big Brother has armed bodyguards 24/7 and the criminals will have smiles ear to ear. Get use to being a serf. It will be that or prison.

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    • bunkerville Says:

      If only Big Government was limited to just the guns. They will decide who is unfit to live before it is over.

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  7. Steve Dennis Says:

    This is going to be the next phase in gun control efforts at some point. It is now being reported that the government is looking to create a huge Obamacare data warehouse, once this and the complete takeover of healthcare is finished we are going to see this more and more.

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    • bunkerville Says:

      One has to give them credit in staying on the march. How many Docs will be willing to take any risk and not reporting any patient at the risk of being sued if anything happens?

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      • LadyRavenSDC Says:

        Not only risk of being sued – risk that gov will take away doctors license for not reporting.

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      • thetinfoilhatsociety Says:

        I dunno. I live in a state where the right to keep and bear arms is pretty well sacrosanct. I don’t know of any doctors/NP’s/PA’s who actually ask about guns in the home. Even when I worked in the ER I can’t think of any instances where this was asked even in domestic violence cases. The only time it was asked was during psychiatric crisis admissions, for obvious reasons.

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      • bunkerville Says:

        The AAFP – Family practice Docs have the question as part of the initial pt. evaluation. My Doc asked me. I didn’t answer the question, it was in written form. Part of the new mandate coming down

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    • the unit Says:

      “Smile, you’re on Candid Data Warehouse!” Yep my doc had a new form to fill out about depression in December. And from September about “do you feel safe at home?” His diagnostic report was “Patient prone to fall.” How can I handle a gun when I fall down? I asked him about that in December and he said just based on your age. I only going on 73, he going on 84.
      Yes I be prone, they all need to be pruned. 🙂

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      • thetinfoilhatsociety Says:

        You can demand that be removed from your medical record. You may have to get a lawyer though; incorrect medical diagnoses and information can be removed (with difficulty, hence the lawyer). This is why I hesitate to put diagnoses on patient charts unless I’m certain of it and have labs/patient statements/diagnostic tests to back it up. And you don’t have to answer any question you don’t want to.

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      • the unit Says:

        I presume you’re in a position to do diagnostics and record. Yes or no…have you stopped beating your wife. Refusal to answer the question is what? You might want to check with a friend in X-ray and trade your tin foil for lead. lol

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      • bunkerville Says:

        The non answer is an answer in my book.

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      • the unit Says:

        Yep. At least gets a caution sticker.

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      • LadyRavenSDC Says:

        “What ya gonna do when they come for you – bad boy – bad boy!”

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