Gruber: ‘States against Medicaid expansion “Awesome” in their “Evilness”


What this clip shows is that Gruber really is a deluded man. He apparently believes that we should be stupid as opposed to being stupid. Those who have followed the ACA bill know that after the Feds chip in to expand State Medicaid – 90 percent the first year as I recall, it diminishes each year until the States have huge numbers of enrollees that they would be responsible for and would bankrupt each State. Meanwhile, the Medicaid reimbursement rates are so low that Hospitals and Doctors would face bankruptcy as well. A perfect storm, designed to achieve a total Federal takeover of Healthcare.

A new video featuring Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber, uncovered by White House Dossier today, shows Gruber concurring that some states refusing to expand Medicaid as part of Obamacare do so out of racist motives and asserting that the refusal is “almost awesome in its evilness” and an effort to “punish poor people.


POLLACK: One of the things that’s really striking to me is, there’s is a politics of impunity towards poor people, particularly non-white poor people that – it’s almost a feature rather than a bug in the internal politics in some of these states, not to cover people under Medicaid even if it’s financially very advantageous to do so.

I think there’s a really important principle to defeat this politically, not just because Medicaid is important for people, but because it’s such a toxic political perspective. It has to be shown that that approach to politics doesn’t work, because otherwise we will really be stuck with some very unjust policies that will be pursued with complete impunity in some of these places.

GRUBER: You know, that’s a great way to put it: There’s larger principles at stake here, when these states are not just turning down covering the poor people, but turning down the federal stimulus that would come with that.

They’re not just not interested in covering poor people, they’re willing to sacrifice billions of dollars in injections into their economy in order to punish poor people. I mean, it really is just almost awesome in its evilness. And I agree, you have to recognize there’s larger principles at stake here.

H/T and more over at : White House Dossier

24 Responses to “Gruber: ‘States against Medicaid expansion “Awesome” in their “Evilness””

  1. Steve Dennis Says:

    I was buy yesterday and I missed this, thanks for sharing it. More and more comes out from this guy everyday and honestly it is hard not to enjoy it just a little bit.

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  2. Gruber: ‘States against Medicaid expansion “Awesome” in their “Evilness” | SilentSoldier Says:

    […] BUNKERVILLE: […]

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    • bunkerville Says:

      Thanks again.

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  3. Jersey McJones Says:

    Almost four million people are doing without health coverage because these slovenly, stupid, sleazy, lowlife, immoral, unethical, racist, creepy, insecure, unmanly, cowardly, indecent, un-Christian, un-American pieces of feces in these state capitals are refusing to get with the times. We are the ONLY developed nation on the planet that is stupid enough to allow the continued profiteering and controlling of our healthcare by private interests who use health insurance as a hedge. It’s our friggin’ health at stake, and you stupid, retarded, backwards cons put that in the hands of people who’s main interest is to not pay your bills – to not make the whole mf’n point of INSURANCE.

    Idiots.

    JMJ

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    • bunkerville Says:

      Keep dreaming. The world’s healthcare lives off the research and development of American drugs and technology. Yes, everyone should have healthcare, but this is not the way. I almost thought you ran out of verbs.

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      • Jersey McJones Says:

        You don’t understand R&D AT ALL IN THE LEAST. Utterly IGNORANT. You are just a useless idiot for the insurance industry.

        JMJ

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      • thetinfoilhatsociety Says:

        No, I fear you don’t understand research and development. It’s financed by the pharmaceutical companies. Even at universities. And since they are paying for it they get to decide parameters, who gets to pass the pre-research phase (so if too many people have side effects those people are eliminated from further participation), they get to determine what raw data gets included into the final report that is published, and they frame the questions regarding side effects to the final participants in such a way that it appears that side effects are basically the same as placebo whether they actually are or not. Witness the statin associated diabetes, just as one example. Or the effectiveness of the influenza vaccine, for another. Look up the Cochrane Review on flu vaccines if you don’t believe me. And, finally, they have friends in the FDA who are happy to go by only their research because it means they 1. don’t have to actually work to do the research themselves and 2. they don’t have a budget for that anyway and 3. they plan to go back to work for a pharmaceutical company at some point in the future, so they have no desire to piss off anyone at any drug company by not approving their drug, or by pulling it off the market even if it’s obvious it’s dangerous or doesn’t work.

        You should really get out more.

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      • bunkerville Says:

        You make excellent points. I worked in Healthcare management and what you speak of is true. On the flip side, it costs about $1 Billion to bring a drug to market. Many failures. There are numerous orphan drugs that companies fund. We would not have the antibiotics today if not for Billions in investments. MRI’s and Cat Scan machines – who invented them. They cost around $1million and are out of date in five years. Sadly with all that has gone on, the corruption is rampant throughout our amoral society. Still, I would take what I have, warts and all to what most of the world has in Medicine.

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      • Jersey McJones Says:

        You do not understand how R&D works. You are ignorant of the subject. You are not even approaching it in a way that someone who understands the subject would approach it.

        JMJ

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      • bunkerville Says:

        Jersey, you are coming close to the end of the line. IF you can’t be civil and just want to name call ….

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      • thetinfoilhatsociety Says:

        Given that I have both been a research participant and a researcher, and being required to evaluate research as a part of my studies and job, I think I am adequately equipped to comment. Go away troll.

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      • Jersey McJones Says:

        When you look at the way science and research is done in this country and around the world, the government, most through the university systems but through other institutions as well, is a vital producer of the foundational discoveries that are then refined in the private sector. Basic research in general topics or new hypotheses and theories is not in itself a profitable venture, but it is vital for future inventions, discoveries, and innovation.

        Educated people are well aware of this reality. You guys seem oblivious to this reality.

        So ban me if you like. But you were just sounding foolish.

        JMJ

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  4. Conservatives on Fire Says:

    What he is really saying is that he supports sacrificing the middle class on the alter of the poor so he and his elite friends can feel good about themselves.

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    • bunkerville Says:

      You hit it the nail on the head. First he thinks we are stupid, but we knew all along what the whole thing was all about. And all of this for probably 5 or 6 million we will stand the best healthcare system in the world on its head?

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    • Lorra B. Says:

      I just jumped in here but, yes, I believe that is exactly what he is saying. I hate when folks can’t play nicely and, instead, start calling names and being a jerk. But, they do that because they have neither the class not the wear-with-all to carry on a civilized conversation and just state the facts. UGH! Anyway, great read….almost forgot why I came by! LOLOL!!

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  5. Always On Watch Says:

    The true face of the Left. By not wearing the typical mask, Gruber has done us conservatives a favor, IMO.

    BTW, why doesn’t Gruber fork over some of his big bucks to help the poor?

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    • Adrienne Says:

      A better question is why doesn’t Gruber fork over some money to have someone clean that pig sty (no offense to pigs intended) of an office? And why is Pollock sitting around in his jacket?

      Leave it to me to focus in on what most people would think is unimportant, but it’s not. These educated beyond their intelligence hoity toity “academics” couldn’t change a washer in a faucet to save their lives because they think that’s beneath them. Arrogant assholes.

      “willing to sacrifice billions of dollars in injections into their economy”

      No, dumb ass. When you take tax dollars from hard working Americans and pump it into an over-inflated medical community who over-charges, you have only moved the dollars from one pile to another. That does not improve the economy. Your earning millions of dollars to flap your pie hole doesn’t improve the economy either.

      Holy crapola – it’s not even 6am (I’ve been up since 4:30) and I’m already pissed off. It’s going to be a long day. 😉

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      • bunkerville Says:

        A sharp eye A.!

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      • Adrienne Says:

        It’s called OCD 😉

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      • mcnorman Says:

        Exactly Adrienne. What is Grubby doing to make things better for all those in such desperate need that he and his fellow asshats are playing? There is a special place in Hell waiting for all of these creeps.

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      • bunkerville Says:

        Destroying the best Healthcare system in the world. Yes, Hell is just to good a place.

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      • thetinfoilhatsociety Says:

        We do not have the best health care system in the world. We may be the place with the most expensive and experimental interventions, but that doesn’t mean our system is the best. If you are evaluating a system you need to look at outcomes for everyone in the system, which means the populace as a whole. Our system is excellent if you have really good insurance or you are wealthy enough to buy what you want/need. It’s not excellent for the rest of us.

        My son is going blind in his left eye, he has what I suspect is permanent central vision loss in that eye. He sees an opthamologist today, far too late for most issues that can be fixed by surgery/drugs. If we were rich this wouldn’t even be an issue. Because we’re too rich for Obamacare and too poor to buy what we need, he’s basically screwed.

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      • bunkerville Says:

        I am sorry to hear that. I looked at the ACA plans, and the “best” had a $5ooo deductible.

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    • bunkerville Says:

      I look forward to any hearing with this fine fellow. My guess he will not be able to contain his arrogance.

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