UPDATE: Here is a link to one of the votes for Obamacare. We will remember come November.:
https://bunkerville.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/vote-tally-for-healthcare-reform/
Here we go in the wayback machine. Defund the bill, GOP. End it now.
Stephanopoulos takes issue with a mandate that obligates Americans to purchase health insurance, or risk being fined as much as $900. “How is that not a tax?”
“A responsibility to get health insurance is not a tax increase,” Obama said.
Stephanopoulos then tells Obama that he looked up the definition of “tax” in Merriam Webster’s dictionary.
“The fact that you looked up… the definition of tax increase indicates that you’re stretching a little bit right now,” Obama responded. And so Obama stretches to the right,
On “This Week,” George Stephanopoulos and President Obama have a colorful discussion over Obama’s health care reform proposal.
June 30, 2012 at 11:30 am
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June 28, 2012 at 8:06 pm
At least this has been exposed as a tax but sadly I think we are stuck with this. We can remember in November and we can punish those that thrust this upon us but sadly I don’t think it will ever be repealed, and on top of that Roberts just gave the feds a way around the commerce clause which will be used in the future. A sad day indeed…..
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June 28, 2012 at 10:45 pm
I really dont understand this, and from the reports and analysis, it does not compute. More to follow I am sure to find out how devastating.
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June 28, 2012 at 3:19 pm
[…] is a sad day indeed. Bunkerville used the wayback machine to remind us that President Obama insists that this is not a tax. Somehow, the law failed the […]
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June 28, 2012 at 11:35 am
Justice Roberts chickened out politically, but he saved the day by writing the ruling to justify the law under the government’s taxation power. Doing so saved us from another expansion of the already cavernous commerce clause. Legal jujitsu…
So this constitutes no expansion of government power.
Government already and still does have too much power, but this did not expand it.
They won’t force you to eat your arugula, they will just tax you punitively if you don’t.
The federal government has had such power for 100 years, it is just metasticizing now. This is why elections are so important.
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June 28, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Obama has won, but it could have been worse I guess. If Kennedy had been the vote I could have taken it much better.
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June 28, 2012 at 11:12 am
Ah, Bunker, I am so depressed. Even if the Mrdcare provisions are problematic, the Supreme Court today set a precident that there is nothing the Feferal government can’t mandate. This is indeed a sad day for America.
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June 28, 2012 at 12:52 pm
They just have to do via a tax as I hear it.
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June 28, 2012 at 1:01 pm
But the Patient Affordable Care Act was a Senate bill. I thought all tax bills had to originate in the House. Isn’t that why Obama argued that it wasn’t a tax?
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June 28, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Jim…you may be on to something. Not sure where it started, I know it went back and forth. I wil try and find my vote tallys.
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June 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm
I linked the vote tally in the post Jim.
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June 28, 2012 at 10:48 am
Obama SWORE and argued to death that the mandate WAS NOT A TAX… now it is, how bout that
Also, the Medicare provision appears very problematic for the bill… the state exchanges can’t be forced upon the states like ObamaCare needs to work. Remember Christie refused to do it until the ruling… WELL, he won today- and other states can tell Obama NO too.
That’s seems as disabling as if the mandate was shot down…
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June 28, 2012 at 12:51 pm
Looks like there are a few bright spots, but I would not put it past him to find a way around it. Thanks for stopping by.
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